#191: Drive | How To Measure Your Marketing Efforts with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark
Nov 7, 2024
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Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder and CEO of Paramark, is a B2B marketing measurement guru, sharing invaluable insights at the Drive 2024 event. He challenges outdated attribution models and emphasizes the need for modern measurement techniques. Pranav discusses proving the incremental impact of various channels like search, social media, and podcasts. He also explores how to effectively showcase marketing’s value to CFOs and CEOs, the importance of data analysis, and the necessity of experimentation to decode brand equity and marketing effectiveness.
Effective marketing measurement enhances creativity and demonstrates business impact, enabling marketers to address leadership's performance inquiries confidently.
Understanding true attribution involves focusing on how marketing efforts drive incremental growth rather than merely counting engagement touches across channels.
Deep dives
The Measurement Mindset
Measurement is crucial in marketing, and many marketers struggle to embrace it. It is emphasized that measurement should not overshadow creativity but instead serve as a tool to enhance creative efforts and demonstrate their impact on business outcomes. With the right approach, marketers can confidently address questions from the CFO or CEO regarding performance metrics. For instance, by properly defining what to measure, marketers can articulate how their initiatives directly contribute to growth, which is ultimately what leadership values.
Rethinking Attribution
Attribution is often misunderstood in marketing conversations, with many focusing on first-touch, last-touch, and multi-touch models that often fail to establish true cause-and-effect relationships. The speaker argues that real attribution should focus on understanding how marketing efforts drive incremental growth rather than just counting touches. By shifting the conversation to how much growth is attributable to various sales and marketing efforts, marketers can foster more honest discussions about their impact on the business. Recognizing this can help marketers construct compelling narratives around their contributions to the overall success of their companies.
Leveraging Various Channels for Measurement
Different marketing channels, such as search ads, social media, and podcasts, all present unique challenges for measurement. Each channel requires tailored strategies for understanding its impact on business metrics, often utilizing advanced methodologies like conversion lift tests to assess the effectiveness of campaigns. The discussion highlights the importance of correlating impressions with outcomes—such as demo bookings or sales—to make informed decisions based on data. This approach empowers marketers to experiment and adjust their strategies according to what is proven effective, avoiding reliance on assumption-based practices.
The Role of Brand in Measurement
Brand measurement presents challenges, particularly when trying to connect brand-related efforts with tangible business outcomes. It is crucial to distinguish between general brand awareness and measurable actions that directly affect revenue. The speaker emphasizes that measuring the effectiveness of brand campaigns necessitates linking them to revenue, which can be achieved by analyzing data from various channels as part of a broader marketing strategy. Ultimately, an honest conversation about brand efforts includes understanding leadership's expectations and articulating how branding contributes to the overall financial performance of an organization.
This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark, hosted a session on one of B2B's biggest challenges: measurement and attribution.
Pranav covers:
Why attribution models like first-touch and last-touch are outdated
How to prove the incremental impact of marketing channels, including search, social, email, podcasts, billboards, and brand.
How to present marketing's value to the CFO and CEO
Timestamps
(00:00) - - Intro to Pranav
(07:05) - - Marketing IS Measurable
(07:48) - - What Does Attribution Mean?
(11:03) - - Do Search Ads Drive Incremental Sales?
(12:20) - - How To Find Cause From Search > Impression > Click > Conversion
(14:13) - - Google’s Conversion Lift
(15:40) - - Do Social Ads Drive Incremental Sales?
(17:06) - - Tracking Demo Bookings vs. LinkedIn Impressions
(19:21) - - Do Emails Drive Incremental Sales?
(21:51) - - Do Podcasts Drive Incremental Sales?
(24:42) - - Do Billboards Drive Incremental Sales?
(27:06) - - How Do You Measure Brand?
(32:01) - - Why You Should Experiment to Understand Attribution
(34:11) - - The Long Term Impact of Brand Equity
(35:56) - - How to Measure the Impact of Videos and LinkedIn
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