Based Camp | Simone & Malcolm Collins

Antinatalism & Negative Utilitarianism: Why is it Wrong?

Jun 13, 2025
This discussion delves into the contentious philosophy of antinatalism, critiquing its foundational arguments and exploring its flaws. The hosts examine the implications of choosing non-existence over life, challenging the notion that existence is inherently harmful. They also highlight the interconnectedness of humanity, advocating for a positive perspective that values life's challenges. Throughout, they grapple with moral responsibilities surrounding life and suffering, ultimately defending the significance of individual agency and cultural identity in shaping a fulfilling existence.
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ANECDOTE

Sterilizing A Tribe Example

  • Malcolm Collins illustrates antinatalism by sterilizing a Native American tribe, which most see as harm but antinatalists see as a favor.
  • This reveals antinatalists view humans only at the individual level, ignoring family or society identity.
INSIGHT

Antinatalism and Terrorism Link

  • Antinatalism is linked to acts of terrorism motivated by ideas like ending suffering by ending sentience.
  • Extreme antinatalists take a militant stance to eradicate life to prevent suffering.
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Future Humans Are Harmed Too

  • Preventing someone from being born harms them, as sterilization removes futures that would exist.
  • Future humans exist as real parts of the timeline, so denying them life is moral harm.
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