Damian Kelty-Stephen, an experimental psychologist at SUNY New Paltz, explores the boundaries of ecological psychology and neuroscience. He challenges the conventional computer metaphor of the brain and discusses fractal behaviors linking brain and body. The conversation delves into cascade dynamics and turbulence as key elements of intelligence. Damian advocates for a richer understanding of cognition through multifractal frameworks, emphasizing the complexity of self-organization in both natural and artificial systems.
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Accidental Eco-Psych
Damian Kelty-Stephen stumbled into ecological psychology through his advisor, Jay Dixon.
Dixon introduced him to the field's intriguing concept of explaining psychology without relying on memory.
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Brain-Body Collaboration
Brains play a crucial role, but the body contributes more than just being a puppet.
The brain's flexibility is traded off with speed, while the body can perform faster actions.
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Fractal Focus
Kelty-Stephen focuses on the fractal structure of behavior across scales and systems.
He aims to connect this structure to brain-body interactions and their impact on behavior.
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Damian Kelty-Stephen is an experimental psychologist at State University of New York at New Paltz. Last episode with Luis Favela, we discussed many of the ideas from ecological psychology, and how Louie is trying to reconcile those principles with those of neuroscience. In this episode, Damian and I in some ways continue that discussion, because Damian is also interested in unifying principles of ecological psychology and neuroscience. However, he is approaching it from a different perspective that Louie. What drew me originally to Damian was a paper he put together with a bunch of authors offering their own alternatives to the computer metaphor of the brain, which has come to dominate neuroscience. And we discuss that some, and I'll link to the paper in the show notes. But mostly we discuss Damian's work studying the fractal structure of our behaviors, connecting that structure across scales, and linking it to how our brains and bodies interact to produce our behaviors. Along the way, we talk about his interests in cascades dynamics and turbulence to also explain our intelligence and behaviors. So, I hope you enjoy this alternative slice into thinking about how we think and move in our bodies and in the world.