Payments Blockchain Tempo & Tokenized Stocks Surge Ft. Chris Harmse & Eric Piscini

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Sep 8, 2025

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Eric Piscini

Chris Harmse, co-founder of BVNK, and Eric Piscini, CEO of Hashgraph, join Pet Barisha, GM of Tokenized, to dive into the exciting world of payments blockchain. They discuss the necessity for dedicated blockchains in payments and the complexities of stablecoins in the evolving financial landscape. Topics include the technical challenges of tokenizing U.S. stocks, recent advancements in stablecoin payment networks, and the impact of regulatory progress in the APAC region. Their insights offer a fascinating glimpse into the future of digital payments.

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INSIGHT

Payments Need Dedicated Infrastructure

Payments need their own chain because they require reliably fast settlement finality and consistent performance.
General-purpose chains often fail those guarantees during noisy-neighbor events like meme coin spikes.

INSIGHT

Distribution Versus Neutrality Trade-Off

Finding the trade-off between distribution and neutrality is central to stablecoin and chain design.
Neutrality reduces platform lock-in while distribution brings user adoption and reach.

ADVICE

Let Volume Decide Adoption

Build for the customers who need reliable payments and let volume prove product-market fit.
Hedge across chains but run real business volume where the product best serves you.

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On Ep. 47 of Tokenized, Simon Taylor, GTM @ Tempo is joined by Chris Harmse, Co-Founder @ BVNK and Eric Piscini, CEO @ Hashgraph to discuss payments blockchain Tempo, Hedera's launch of Frontier stable token, tokenizing US stocks and more!

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction
05:37 Why payments need their own dedicated blockchain
08:38 Success of crypto projects without native tokens
10:00 Tension between distribution and neutrality in stablecoins
22:43 Social media discourse on Tempo's L1 vs L2 decision
27:50 Importance of sub-second finality for payment reliability
35:00 Libra's legacy and timing in the stablecoin landscape
45:00 Fragmentation in stablecoin networks and Fireblocks launch
53:46 APAC's growing role in stablecoin adoption and regulation

Tokenized is sponsored by Visa

A world leader in digital payments, Visa is bridging the gap between traditional financial institutions and innovative blockchain networks, helping players in the payments ecosystem navigate the ever-evolving world of tokenized fiat currencies with confidence and ease. Learn more at visa.com/crypto.

Tokenized is presented by Bridge, a Stripe company.

Just like the internet made information global, stablecoins are making money global. And Bridge, a Stripe company, is the infrastructure powering that shift. Built for speed, scale, and simplicity, Bridge helps businesses send, store, convert, and spend stablecoins instantly, all without borders or having to navigate the complexities of crypto. Learn more at bridge.xyz

Tokenized is also presented by Fireblocks

With over $100 billion in monthly stablecoin volume, Fireblocks powers stablecoin strategies at scale with infrastructure that enables PSPs, fintechs, remitters and banks to issue, move, hold, and manage stablecoins. And it’s all done securely, at scale, and with built-in compliance. Learn more at fireblocks.com

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Music by Henry McLean