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 Introduction 
 00:00 • 3min 
 In the Shift Podcast - Episode 72 
 03:21 • 2min 
 The Cat of the Podcast 
 05:18 • 5min 
 I Don't Think of an Elephant, I Think of a Janitor 
 09:48 • 2min 
 I'm 39 Now and I've Been a Loyalist for So Long 
 11:50 • 4min 
 You Know the F-Word Is a Big Tear and a Hold of You Know Yeah Yeah Yeah It's Heavy Stuff Isn't It? 
 15:22 • 2min 
 What Was That First Year of Journalism School and How Did It All Start to Unwind? 
 16:56 • 4min 
 What I'm Most Passionate About Is COVID 
 20:48 • 5min 
 Is There Something in This? Is It All Fine and Well to Write About It? 
 25:24 • 4min 
 You Know I've Heard a Lot of People Talk About It and It's a Little Bit of a Shock to Me 
 29:13 • 5min 
 Is There a Story Worth Believen Within an Institution? 
 34:23 • 4min 
 The Hillsong's Coming Back Again 
 38:33 • 3min 
 I've Been Incredibly Disappointed With the Response From Within Christian and New Zealand 
 41:51 • 3min 
 I've Been Bullied a Lot in My Christian Upbringing and I Think It's Tied Up in That Sense of Social Justice? 
 44:57 • 4min 
 Webroom Is So Perfect for This 
 49:01 • 4min 
 Is There a Gap Between Self-Perception and Influence? 
 53:06 • 3min 
 Is That Something? 
 55:46 • 3min 
 How Anger Fueled Your Writing? 
 58:31 • 5min 
 I've Met Some Really Cool Young People Through This Whole Process 
 01:03:56 • 4min 
 We're Profoundly Thankful for Your Part in This Series 
 01:08:05 • 3min 
 I'll Get the Keyboard 
 01:10:52 • 2min 
 You've Sparked a Whole Year of in the Shift With Your Work 
 01:12:39 • 4min 


