Marriage Therapy Radio Ep 407 Fighting the Right Enemy with Glenn and Jodie
Jan 13, 2026
In this engaging discussion, Jodie Spears, an entrepreneur and cancer survivor, and Glenn Berkline, her business partner and husband, share their powerful journey through health challenges and entrepreneurship. They reveal how Jodie's breast cancer diagnosis became a shared adversary that strengthened their bond. The couple offers insights on caregiving and communication, exploring how externalizing problems can foster teamwork. They also delve into their work with Couples, Inc., helping other couples navigate the complexities of business and relationships.
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Cancer Became Their Joint Challenge
- Jodie described multiple cancer diagnoses starting shortly after their engagement and recurring over years, including stage four spread to bone.
- Glenn stayed, cared for her through treatments, and shaved her head during chemo, which bonded them and built friendships with medical staff.
Perspective Shrinks Small Conflicts
- Facing cancer forced them to stop sweating small stuff and reprioritize their relationship.
- The illness functioned as an external adversary that drew them closer and clarified what mattered.
Wiring Differences Hit Hard When Working Together
- Jodie and Glenn described daily friction from different work styles: Jodie is a "thrower" who multitasks, Glenn is a "stacker" who prioritizes one task.
- Working together amplifies these differences, causing recurring grumbles about lists and timing.