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Ryan Deiss on Building a Business That Doesn’t Need You

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Jun 25, 2025
Ryan Deiss, entrepreneur and founder of DigitalMarketer, shares invaluable insights from his experiences launching over 17 companies. He discusses the critical difference between growth and scale, revealing how founders can escape the traps of their own businesses. Learn about the 'sticky note' method for delegating effectively, the importance of hiring great people without relying solely on them, and how to harness AI to boost team performance. Deiss emphasizes that true business freedom comes from implementing smart systems and clear roles.
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INSIGHT

Freedom Means Exiting Roles

  • Being required to show up daily means you have a job, not a business.
  • True freedom in business comes from exiting roles, not just growth.
INSIGHT

Growth Versus Scale

  • Growth is about increasing a metric, like revenue or leads.
  • Scale is increasing business capacity to handle growth sustainably.
ADVICE

Exit Functions To Become CEO

  • Exit functional roles to move toward true CEO duties.
  • CEOs should have no core business function responsibilities like sales or fulfillment.
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