Choiceology with Katy Milkman

Recipe for Success: With Guests Simon Rogan & Michele Gelfand

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Apr 22, 2024
Chef Simon Rogan and cross-cultural psychology expert Michele Gelfand discuss the impact of strict and relaxed cultures on decision-making. Simon shares his journey in changing kitchen culture, while Michele explores the concept of tight and loose cultures. They highlight the importance of finding the balance between following rules and breaking norms in different contexts.
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ANECDOTE

Tough Kitchen Initiation

  • Simon Rogan describes rising through harsh, military-style kitchens in the 1980s and 1990s where obedience and long hours were the norm.
  • He recounts initiations like sanding oysters and juicing lemons that tested commitment and toughness.
ANECDOTE

Founding L'Enclume In Cartmel

  • Simon bought an old blacksmith building in Cartmel and opened L'Enclume in 2002 after selling possessions to fund renovations.
  • Early success brought a Michelin star but also staff turnover and personal unhappiness with the authoritarian style.
ADVICE

Prioritize Staff Wellbeing

  • Simon changed his management to prioritize staff wellbeing, higher pay, and shorter hours to retain talent and boost creativity.
  • He encouraged ideas from all levels, creating collaborative menus and development teams.
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