Programming Parables to Astound your Coworkers - The Tao of Programming by Geoffrey James

Nov 17, 2025

Carter and Nathan delve into the humorous world of programming through 'The Tao of Programming.' They explore the relevance of its satirical take on corporate culture and iconic programmer mythology. The hosts reflect on coding style principles, such as clarity and the law of least astonishment, and examine the challenges of software maintenance. Management insights, including team dynamics and the importance of ecosystems, highlight the ongoing struggles in tech. Finally, they discuss the essence of firmware and share personal takeaways from their reading.

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Satire Reveals Timeless Programming Truths

The Tao of Programming uses Daoist koans to satirize programming culture and corporate bureaucracy.
Its humor exposes enduring tensions like autonomy vs control and simplicity vs complexity in software work.

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Programming As Stillness And Motion

The book frames programming as a pursuit that balances stillness and constant motion.
That tension underpins how languages, compilers, and applications relate within the 'DAO of programming.'

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Stealing Ideas Is The Oldest Trade-Show Trick

Nathan and Carter recount the trade-show thief who 'steals ideas' not hardware, equating it to modern AI scraping.
Carter connects this to his internship moment realizing someone somewhere already knew the answer to his bug.

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Introducing The Tao of Programming

05:00 • 3min

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Why the Essay Still Feels Prescient

08:10 • 4min

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Ancient Masters and Programmer Mythology

11:45 • 8min

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Design: Stealing Ideas and System Thinking

19:46 • 11min

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Coding Style and the Law of Least Astonishment

30:59 • 7min

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Maintenance: Software Rot and Prioritization

37:35 • 3min

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Management: Meetings, Autonomy, and Two-Pizza Teams

40:11 • 4min

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Corporate Wisdom and Navigating Bureaucracy

44:40 • 7min

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Hardware, Software, and the Power of Ecosystems

51:23 • 7min

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Firmware: The Unsung Foundation

58:29 • 2min

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Hot Takes and Career Reflections

01:00:31 • 2min

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