How to Lead with Clay Scroggins and Adam Tarnow I'm Not Management Material
May 19, 2025
Many talented professionals believe they're not cut out for management, but it's often due to flawed systems rather than personal failure. The podcast dives into the shift in how younger generations view leadership roles, linking it to cultural influences like the infamous Dilbert cartoon. It highlights the importance of mindset in embracing management as a skill that can be developed. Ultimately, it encourages listeners to see their leadership journey as a path of growth, supported by mentorship and community.
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Generational Shift on Management
- Gen Z and Millennials are increasingly rejecting traditional management roles.
- This skepticism is partly due to witnessing burnt-out and stressed managers in corporate America.
Management's Lost Prestige
- Management used to be viewed as a prestigious reward but now feels like a trap to many.
- Pop culture has played a key role in making managers the subject of satire and criticism.
Clay's Early Management Struggle
- Clay hired a friend for 10 hours a week and realized early on he was not ready to manage.
- He ended her role after 2 weeks, admitting he wasn't prepared to manage despite thinking he was.
