How to Lead with Clay Scroggins and Adam Tarnow

Clay Scroggins and Adam Tarnow
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Oct 6, 2025 • 23min

The Illusion of Communication

George Bernard Shaw once said, “The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.” In this episode, Adam and Clay dig into why miscommunication happens so often at work—and how leaders can prevent it. From funny mix-ups (like a cake with the wrong message) to frustrating real-life examples of missed handoffs and unclear priorities, they explore why clarity is a leader’s most important tool.You’ll learn five simple habits to make sure your message actually lands:Repeat back what you hearUse visuals, not just wordsPreview where you’re goingMatch tone to intentShare bad news in personThe big takeaway? Don’t assume communication happened just because you said something. Clarity is leadership.
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Sep 22, 2025 • 27min

How to Say What No One Else Will

Every leader eventually faces this challenge: noticing something others don’t—and deciding whether to say it out loud. In this episode, Adam and Clay unpack why helping people see their blind spots is both one of the hardest and most important things leaders do. Drawing from voices like Daniel Goleman, Patrick Lencioni, Kim Scott, and the Crucial Conversations framework, they explore why awareness is the on-ramp to growth and why so many leaders hesitate to start these conversations.If you care about someone’s growth, you owe it to them to speak up—with kindness, clarity, and curiosity.
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Sep 15, 2025 • 36min

Bury Me in a Dirty Suit (featuring Darin Kinder)

Life is hard. You’d better be willing to get dirty.The path to courage is narrow, demanding—and few are willing to walk it. Courage is always a choice.On 9/11, after hours of rendering aid, evacuating the wounded, and fighting fires, today's guest and his teammates looked wrecked—bloodied, exhausted, and wearing suits torn to shreds.Later that day, Darin crossed paths with another group—clean, polished, untouched. Perfect hair. Shiny shoes. Crisp white shirts.There are two paths: one of comfort and safety, and one of sacrifice and courage. One is wide and crowded. The other is costly and rare.​Which will you choose?What will you be remembered for?Get your suit dirty.Visit Darin's website: HEREGrab a copy of his book: HERE
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Sep 8, 2025 • 23min

What Worked Over There Won’t Work In Here

Ever played the party game Green Glass Door? The rules keep changing, and the fun comes from watching people struggle to figure them out. Your career works the same way. The skills that made you successful early on—working hard, delivering results, and being dependable—will only take you so far. At some point, you cross The Edge, an invisible line where the rules shift.On the other side of The Edge, winning isn’t about technical proficiency anymore. It’s about relational savvy—your ability to make decisions, navigate diplomacy, and get things done through others. In this episode, Adam unpacks the two games of a career, why the transition is so confusing, and how to avoid getting stuck playing by the wrong rules.Drawing on timeless wisdom from Dale Carnegie, you’ll learn practical ways to bring calm, energy, and influence into your leadership. If you’ve ever wondered why working harder isn’t working anymore, this conversation will show you how to play (and win) the new game.
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Aug 25, 2025 • 16min

Why Live Learning Still Works

Live learning isn’t just another way to consume content, it’s an experience that commands attention, personalizes the message, and accelerates team momentum. Unlike books or podcasts, a live session meets your people in the moment, speaks directly to their challenges, and creates a shared language that sticks long after the event. For senior leaders, it’s one of the few investments that can deliver six months’ worth of trust, clarity, and alignment in a single day.
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Aug 11, 2025 • 18min

The Frank Blake Leadership Playbook

What makes a leader unforgettable? In this episode, Adam and Clay reflect on a quiet moment in an airport lounge with former Home Depot CEO Frank Blake—and what it revealed about the kind of leadership that truly lasts. Instead of holding court, Blake was asking questions, listening intently, and showing up with presence. They break down three simple (but rare) behaviors: staying curious when it’s easier to assume, showing up with presence instead of position, and building a legacy through small, consistent actions that make people feel seen. You’ll walk away challenged to lead like Frank Blake—not by being loud, but by being curious.
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Aug 4, 2025 • 20min

Clues Your Personal Brand Needs a Rebrand

Your personal brand is always speaking, whether you’re shaping it intentionally or not. In this episode, we explore six subtle (but telling) clues that your reputation at work might be stuck in the past. From being known for who you used to be, to struggling to articulate what makes you different today, we break down how to recognize when your brand needs a refresh—and what to do about it. Whether you’re stepping into a new level of leadership or just tired of being overlooked, this episode will help you clarify your brand and communicate it with confidence.
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Jul 22, 2025 • 25min

Peaceful and Ruthless: The Paradox of Scottie Scheffler

“this is not a fulfilling life”"why do I want to win this tournament so bad?"This is the paradox of Scottie Scheffler and there is something for all of us to learn.
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Jul 14, 2025 • 17min

Are Questions a Form of Control? Rethinking Curiosity in Leadership

“Just ask more questions.”It’s classic leadership advice — but what if it doesn’t land the way you think?In this episode, we unpack a tension that’s come up again and again, especially with younger Millennials and Gen Z:Questions can build trust, open doors, and deepen connection — but when they feel forced, transactional, or performative, they do the opposite.We’ll explore:Why the best leaders still ask great questions — but never to manipulate.What younger employees are really pushing back on when they say, “Don’t interrogate me.”Four practical ways to make your questions feel authentic, not artificial.How to match your curiosity to the moment — whether you’re building rapport, coaching, or holding someone accountable.A simple gut-check to make sure you’re asking to connect, not control.Closing challenge:Before you ask your next big question, ask yourself: Do I really want to know the answer?Then pick one relationship this week and ask a better, braver question — and actually listen to what comes next.
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Jun 30, 2025 • 23min

What GenZ and Millennials Really Want From Their Leaders

Explore what Gen Z and millennials truly seek from their leaders. They desire genuine well-being, not just trendy perks. Purpose-driven work aligns with their values, while flexibility and a sense of belonging outweigh prestige. Leaders are urged to foster environments that support mental health discussions. Investing in employee growth can enhance loyalty, as many under 40 prioritize development and meaningful work over mere financial rewards. Listen for insights on fostering trust and connection in today's workplace.

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