
How to Lead with Clay Scroggins and Adam Tarnow Public Speaking Isn’t About Mechanics — It’s About a Message
Most people think becoming a great speaker means mastering body language, vocal tone, and slide design. But the truth? None of that matters if you don’t have something worth saying.
In this episode, Adam and Clay unpack why public speaking isn’t about polish — it’s about purpose. Drawing from Rob Fitzpatrick’s idea of pseudoteaching, they explore how even flawless delivery can fall flat when the message lacks substance.
You’ll learn:
The myth of mechanics and why performance doesn’t equal impact
Two practical tests for knowing if your message is worth sharing
How to shift your focus from sounding good to saying something good
Whether you’re leading a meeting, pitching an idea, or giving a keynote, this episode will help you stop performing and start communicating.
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