Agile Mentors Podcast

#145: How to Lead Without Burning Out (or Burning Bridges) with Ginger Boyll

May 7, 2025
In this discussion, Ginger Boyll, the Director of Client Experience at Stable Kernel, shares her insights on growing a remote team from 30 to over 100 while maintaining a vibrant workplace culture. She emphasizes the importance of an Agile mindset, trust, and even Dungeons & Dragons in fostering teamwork. The conversation highlights the magical role of psychological safety in collaboration, the challenges of effective communication, and the art of letting others lead. Ginger also delves into balancing personal values with professionalism to prevent burnout.
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ADVICE

Promote Psychological Safety

  • Foster psychological safety so team members feel safe to admit problems and mistakes.
  • Avoid public shaming and focus on respectful problem-solving to improve and move forward.
ANECDOTE

Building Customer Data Platform

  • A client project to build a new customer data platform gained momentum and internal adoption.
  • Success involved expanding the team and overcoming resistance to change in a large organization.
ANECDOTE

Learning Automated Testing Challenges

  • Attempting to implement automated testing revealed challenges balancing learning and client needs.
  • The team improved by adopting a shift-left mindset and involving quality engineering expertise.
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