364: Speaking Of Dissociation - With Dr. Jamie Marich

Jan 6, 2023

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INSIGHT

Dissociation As A Normal Spectrum

Dissociation is a normal, protective part of the human response to stress and trauma.
Treat it as a spectrum rather than a rare, extreme pathology.

ANECDOTE

Living As Part Of A Dissociative System

Jamie identifies as part of a dissociative system with pronounced active parts who accompany daily functioning.
She uses 'we' language and integrates both Dr. Jamie and Jamie voices in her work.

INSIGHT

Clinician Lived Experience Enhances Care

Clinicians' lived experience with mental health issues is common and can enhance clinical skill when integrated.
Hiding clinicians' struggles perpetuates stigma and separates professionals from clients.

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Welcome back to Therapy Chat! As we welcome the New Year, we are welcoming new perspectives. This week's episode is all about reconsidering what you've always thought about dissociation (if you've thought about it at all!).

This week's guest is Dr. Jamie+ Marich. Jamie/Dr. Jamie uses she/they pronouns, identifying as a bisexual woman in recovery from a substance-related disorder who is part of a dissociative system. She is also an internationally recognized speaker, trainer in EMDR and expressive arts, the author of many books, and a psychotherapist in private practice. Their newest book, Dissociation Made Simple, includes stories shared by Jamie/Dr. Jamie and 61 contributors, nearly 40 of whom are mental health clinicians living with dissociative disorders. The book is for anyone to learn about dissociation, and the stories shared truly demystify this misunderstood and highly stigmatized experience.

Listen in to hear Laura and Jamie+ discuss:

- Reconceptualizing trauma

- Understanding the spectrum of dissociation

- Bias and misinformation in the therapy community about Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)

- Intersectionality of oppression and how it plays into stigma surrounding trauma and mental health, especially around dissociation

- How to use the book

- Speaking truth to powerful systems and institutions

- Pierre Janet and Sigmund Freud

Dr. Jamie+ Marich (she/they) describes themselves as a facilitator of transformative experiences. A clinical trauma specialist, expressive artist, writer, yogini, performer, short filmmaker, reiki master, TEDx speaker, and recovery advocate, she unites all of these elements in her mission to inspire healing in others. Jamie is a woman in long-term recovery from an addictive disorder and is living loudly and proudly as a woman with a
dissociative disorder with the goal of smashing stigma about dissociation in the mental health field and in society at large.

Jamie+ began her career as a humanitarian aid worker in Bosnia- Herzegovina from 2000–2003, primarily teaching English and music. Jamie travels internationally teaching on topics related to trauma, EMDR Therapy, expressive arts, mindfulness, and yoga, while maintaining a private practice and online education operations in her home base of northeast Ohio. Jamie is the founder of The Institute for Creative Mindfulness and the developer of the Dancing Mindfulness approach to expressive arts therapy. She is the developer of Yoga for Clinicians.

Resources

Find Jamie's interviews, articles, etc here: www.traumamadesimple.com

Learn more about Dissociation Made Simple and Jamie at: https://redefinetherapy.com/

Learn about EMDR Training through Institute for Creative Mindfulness here.

Purchase Jamie Marich's books on Amazon:

EMDR Made Simple: 4 Approaches for Using EMDR with Every Client (2011);

Trauma and the Twelve Steps (2020);

Creative Mindfulness (2013);

Trauma Made Simple: Competencies in Assessment, Treatment, and Working with Survivors (2014);

Dancing Mindfulness: A Creative Path to Healing and Transformation (2015); and

Process Not Perfection: Expressive Arts Solutions for Trauma Recovery (2019).

Jamie coauthored EMDR Therapy & Mindfulness for Trauma- Focused Care along with colleague Dr. Stephen Dansiger in 2018,

Healing Addiction with EMDR Therapy: A Trauma-Focused Guide, was published in 2021.

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