
The Resilient Pastor 66 | The Relationships of Today’s Pastors with David Kinnaman
Jan 1, 2026
David Kinnaman, CEO of Barna, joins the hosts to discuss eye-opening research on pastoral relationships. They dive into the paradox of strong marriages amid widespread loneliness among pastors. The importance of peer friendships and covenant groups for reducing isolation is emphasized. Kinnaman highlights the need for spiritual direction and regular soul care as vital lifelines. They also explore barriers to seeking help, including stigma and cultural pressures. This lively conversation sheds light on the importance of community and connection for pastoral resilience.
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Potluck Personalities
- Glenn admits he doesn't cook much and leans on simple smoker or curry dishes when he does.
- Rich bragged about his arroz con gandules while Sharon shared her husband Ike's famed brownies.
Raised In A Pastor's Household
- David Kinnaman shares his upbringing as a pastor's kid and how his parents shaped his view of ministry.
- He recounts his father's public recognition and the family's experience of pastoral celebrity.
Form Peer Pastor Covenants
- Create peer groups of pastors that are outside your church's power dynamics for honest support.
- Build covenant or pastoral groups to receive reciprocal, non-paid friendship and accountability.




