The Resilient Pastor

66 | The Relationships of Today’s Pastors with David Kinnaman

Jan 1, 2026
David Kinnaman, CEO of Barna, joins the hosts to discuss eye-opening research on pastoral relationships. They dive into the paradox of strong marriages amid widespread loneliness among pastors. The importance of peer friendships and covenant groups for reducing isolation is emphasized. Kinnaman highlights the need for spiritual direction and regular soul care as vital lifelines. They also explore barriers to seeking help, including stigma and cultural pressures. This lively conversation sheds light on the importance of community and connection for pastoral resilience.
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ANECDOTE

Potluck Personalities

  • Glenn admits he doesn't cook much and leans on simple smoker or curry dishes when he does.
  • Rich bragged about his arroz con gandules while Sharon shared her husband Ike's famed brownies.
INSIGHT

Pastors Rate Relationships Low

  • Barna found pastors rate relational flourishing lower than other life areas and than average Christians.
  • This reveals pastors honestly acknowledge relational strain despite strengths in other domains.
ADVICE

Use External Soul Care Regularly

  • Seek spiritual direction, counseling, or therapy rather than assuming self-sufficiency.
  • Regularly use these resources to prevent slow accumulations of stress and relational wounds.
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