The Dissenter #1274 Julian Kiverstein: 4E Cognition, Phenomenology, Culture, and Science
Developmental Systems Over Gene Codes
- 4E approaches align with biologically realistic, developmental views emphasizing self-organization, autopoiesis, and adaptivity.
- Kiverstein endorses developmental systems thinking (e.g., Susan Oyama) over gene-as-code models, focusing on organism-centered development.
Life's Organization Seeds Sense Making
- Thompson's deep continuity links life and mind: organizational features of living systems scaffold basic forms of sense-making and proto-intentionality.
- Kiverstein uses this to argue constitution and intentionality trace back to early life's self-maintenance and concern for continuation.
Pain Links Inner Body and Worldly Action
- Pain is phenomenologically both an inner bodily sensing and a world-directed disruption that reshapes goals and engagement.
- Kiverstein highlights pain's sensory, affective, and cognitive dimensions and social modulation like placebo/nocebo effects.
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Dr. Julian Kiverstein is Senior Researcher at the Lemon Tree Center for Psychiatry, Psychotherapy and Philosophy at the University of Amsterdam. He is currently writing a monograph for Palgrave Macmillan entitled The Significance of Phenomenology, and editing a comprehensive handbook for Routledge Taylor Francis on the philosophy of the social mind. He is associate editor of Phenomenology and the Cognitive Sciences and was until recently Book Review Editor for the Journal of Consciousness Studies. In 2006 he was one of the main architects of a successful cross disciplinary, Europe-wide project proposal on consciousness, part of the ESF Programme, Consciousness in a Natural and Cultural Context.
In this episode, we talk about embodied cognition and phenomenology. We discuss evolution, development, self-organization, and cognition. We explore the experience of pain through the lens of embodied predictive processing. We talk about the feeling of being alive and sentience. We talk about how we can understand the self through the Free Energy Principle. We discuss what the boundaries of the mind are. Finally, we talk about culture and enculturation through an ecological-enactive perspective, and how we can understand the institution of science through this perspective.
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