
Julian Kiverstein
Senior professor at Amsterdam Medical and senior researcher at Amsterdam University Medical Center. He co-authored papers about the importance of play as it relates to active inference, intimacy, and embodied cognition.
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Jul 16, 2025 • 1h 23min
#65 Play & Meaningful Uncertainty: Active Inference and the Intellectual Sweet Spot with Julian Kiverstein of Amsterdam UMC
Julian Kiverstein, a senior professor at Amsterdam Medical, discusses the vital role of play in human flourishing. He argues that play helps individuals break free from rigid patterns and promotes mental health by creating a safe environment for exploration. The conversation touches on the paradox of risk and safety in play, how this can combat issues like addiction and OCD, and the importance of curiosity in adult life. Kiverstein also connects play to creativity and personal growth, advocating for a playful mindset in both personal and professional spheres.

Feb 7, 2024 • 11min
Is the Free Energy Principle for Real?
Ian Robertson, Julian Kiverstein, and Michael Kirchhoff discuss the literalist fallacy and realism about the free energy principle. They explore the ongoing debate on whether FEP models accurately represent phenomena or are just heuristic tools. The misconceptions surrounding organisms strictly adhering to FEP models and the role of realism and abstraction in scientific modeling are also examined.