
Curious Humans with Jonny Miller
How to Human: Exploring Soul Initiation, Mythopoetic Identity & The Spiritual Adventure with Depth Psychologist & Wilderness Guide Dr. Bill Plotkin
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Quick takeaways
- Cultivating the four facets of mind for personal growth and human wholeness is crucial.
- Embracing vulnerability through sacred wound work leads to transformative self-awareness.
- Transitioning post-soul encounter involves embodying mythopoetic identity through experimental threshold crossings.
- Exploring plant-based allies for spiritual exploration requires proper guidance and understanding for safe transformation.
Deep dives
The Phases of the Descent to Soul and the Necessary Preparation
Understanding the five phases of the Descent to Soul, including the preparation phase corresponding to the caterpillar creating a cocoon, dissolution, soul encounter, metamorphosis, and enactment is essential. These stages reflect the metamorphic journey individuals undergo to integrate their soul encounters into their being.
The Facets of Mind and Cultivating Wholeness
Cultivating the four innate facets of human wholeness, which include the nurturing generative adult, the innocent sage, the wild indigenous one, and the dark muse beloved, is vital for personal growth and development. These facets play a crucial role in shaping individual authenticity and emotional intelligence.
Navigating the Sacred Wound and the Path to Transformation
Exploring the concept of the sacred wound and its transformative power, derived from Jean Houston's teachings, unveils the idea of embracing vulnerability as a path to deeper self-awareness. Reconnecting with one's sacred wound through core wound work can lead to profound insights and metamorphic shifts in identity.
Transitioning Through Metamorphosis After Soul Encounters
Navigating the metamorphosis phase post-soul encounter involves embracing experimental threshold crossings to embody the mythopoetic identity discovered during the soul encounter. This phase allows individuals to integrate their transformative experiences and slowly radiate their newfound essence into their daily interactions.
The Role of Sacred Plants and Allies in Spiritual Exploration
Delving into the current interest in plant-based allies or entheogens for spiritual exploration unveils a growing fascination with using these tools for inner journeys. Whether through plant medicines or breathwork, these modalities have been instrumental in facilitating deep dives into the realms of spirituality and self-discovery.
Importance of Proper Guidance with Plant Medicines
Working with plant medicines can be a powerful catalyst for shifting consciousness, but it is crucial to have proper guidance and understanding of the process to navigate potential pitfalls. Humans have a long history of exploring altered states of consciousness, often driven by a natural inclination to seek experiences beyond ordinary awareness. Cultivating relationships with sacred plant allies can enhance self-awareness and authenticity, particularly during early adolescence when individuals may feel a strong urge to explore consciousness through various means. While plant medicines can offer benefits in shifting perspectives and deepening understanding of reality, the context, guidance, and integration of these experiences are essential for their safe and transformative use.
Redefining Mental Health and Healing
The discussion delves into redefining mental health conditions such as depression and bipolar disorder as opportunities for deeper emotional processing and soul growth, rather than mere illnesses to be treated with medications. Depression is viewed as a signal of stuck emotions that require acknowledgment and integration to regain vitality and emotional depth. The conversation challenges conventional psychiatric diagnoses and emphasizes the importance of cultivating wholeness and understanding individual facets of wellness for a transformative healing process. Stories of individuals reclaiming their soul powers from diagnoses like bipolar disorder highlight the potential for personal growth and creative empowerment beyond traditional medical treatments.
Dr. Bill Plotkin is a depth psychologist, wilderness guide and visionary ecopsychologist—his work might well be the map that you didn't know you were looking for.
It has been for me an immense treasure trove of practical wisdom and guidance for thinking about my own growth and maturity.
At the end of our conversation, he shared that this was a book written for future generations—and I believe it may take decades before the importance of this body of work is fully understood.
I hope that this conversation will play some role in spreading his ideas—and on that note, in this deep dive conversation we explore:
🤓 His definition for what it means to be a genuine adult (and why he believes 80% of humanity are currently stuck in early-stage adolescence)
🗺️ His map of the five stages of the descent to soul and the path to becoming a true elder
🌎 His 'four facets of mind' as a unique framework for personal development a and cultivating human wholeness
❤️ What he calls 'sacred wound work' a story of the weavings of the Native American Diné people
🔥 What I consider my own mythopoetic identity to be based on an insight during a vision fast in Nepal
🙋♂️ The big question that he would have liked to pose to Carl Jung
❓ What it means for him to 'fill one's space with a question'
🏫 His vision for this work to be put into practice by a global network of 'mystery schools'
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Read Bill's book // The Journey of Soul Initiation
Go Deeper // explore the upcoming Animas Offerings