The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast Making IFS Make Sense: Neurodivergence, EMDR, and Finding Self in the Real World with Kendhal Hart
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Dec 2, 2025 Join Kendhal Hart, a trainer and trauma educator known for her practical teachings on integrating IFS and EMDR, as she shares her insights on living and practicing IFS as a neurodivergent clinician. She discusses her recent autism diagnosis and its impact on her understanding of internal systems. Explore the synergy between IFS and EMDR, practical steps for neurodivergent minds, and how therapists can reflect Self-energy to clients. Kendhal also emphasizes the importance of befriending parts and adapting training for real-world application.
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Why EMDR And IFS Belong Together
- EMDR and IFS complement each other by addressing different healing levels: EMDR desensitizes memories, IFS builds relationship and access to parts.
- Kendhal argues integrating IFS before phase four speeds reprocessing and reduces session blocks.
Map Protectors Before Reprocessing
- Start with parts mapping and get to know protectors before attempting memory reprocessing with EMDR.
- Work with protectors in phases one and two to gain permission so phase four reprocessing can proceed more smoothly.
Distinguish Experiences From Burdens
- Exiles often carry core negative beliefs like "I don't matter," which differ from factual experiences like "I was unsafe."
- Kendhal reframes experiences as facts and the exile's meaning as the actual burden to address.
