Ed Robertson, songwriter for Barenaked Ladies and creator of TBBT and MBB podcast theme songs, opens up about his songwriting process, struggles with imposter syndrome, and the fascinating story behind the TBBT theme. He reflects on his upbringing with an alcoholic father, his career as a pilot, and staying committed to his marriage. They also discuss Canadian cowboy culture and the influence of American country music on Canadian musicians.
The speaker's journey of embracing their own achievements and finding fulfillment in unexpected moments through creating the theme song for The Big Bang Theory.
The speaker's songwriting style focuses on creating catchy, memorable songs by combining various elements from different genres.
The speaker reflects on personal growth, overcoming challenges stemming from their father's alcoholism, and developing stronger bonds with their family.
Deep dives
The Surprise Success of the Big Bang Theory Theme Song
After a string of disappointments, the speaker was initially hesitant to write the theme song for the Big Bang Theory. However, a last-minute burst of inspiration led to the creation of the iconic song. The instant success and popularity of the theme song surpassed anything else the speaker had achieved in their career. The song's connection to the characters and the show's theme of geek culture added another layer of meta-relevance. Ultimately, the experience highlighted the speaker's journey of embracing their own achievements and finding fulfillment in unexpected moments.
The Art of Creating Memorable Music
The speaker's songwriting style focuses on creating catchy, memorable songs. They strive to make their music interesting and enjoyable, using melodic and lyrical complexity as tools to captivate listeners. Drawing inspiration from various genres, such as rock, hip-hop, and country, the speaker combines different elements to craft unique and engaging compositions. Their ability to balance musical catchiness with lyrical depth has contributed to their success as a songwriter.
Reflections on Personal Growth and Overcoming Family Challenges
The speaker reflects on their personal growth journey, including overcoming challenges stemming from their father's alcoholism. They initially internalized their father's struggles as their own, which affected their self-esteem and relationships. However, through therapy and self-reflection, they were able to separate themselves from their father's issues and find peace. This newfound perspective allowed them to appreciate the positive aspects of their childhood and develop stronger bonds with their family.
The Importance of Prioritizing Relationships and Commitment
With over 30 years of marriage, the speaker acknowledges the importance of commitment and work in a relationship. They recognize that marriage requires effort and the willingness to support and love your partner unconditionally. Despite the challenges that fame and success can bring, the speaker and their spouse have navigated their journey together, supporting one another through difficult times. Their ongoing commitment and dedication to their relationship have been crucial in maintaining their connection and strengthening their bond.
Writing Theme Song for Shrek 2
The speaker initially thought it was cool to be asked to write the opening title for Shrek 2, but later realized that many other bands were also asked. Despite spending time on writing a song to match the characters and journey, the producers chose a Counting Crows song called 'Accidentally in Love.' The speaker later received a call to compose the theme song for a show called The Big Bang Theory, thinking they had asked many other artists, he considered declining but found out they hadn't asked anyone else. He ended up composing the whole song in the shower just before the conference call, and it became a huge success, eclipsing everything else he had done.
Canadian Music Journey and Success in America
The speaker's band had significant success in Canada, but when they ventured south of the border, they faced little recognition and smaller audiences. It took them six years of effort to break through in America. The speaker reflects on how their early Canadian success prepared them for the ups and downs of fame. They also discuss the Tragically Hip, another famous Canadian band that never achieved the same level of success in America. The speaker attributes their different paths to luck, opportunities, and the willingness to scale down and adapt to different markets.
Ed Robertson (Barenaked Ladies) breaks down his songwriting process for The Big Bang Theory and our very own MBB podcast theme songs! He opens up about his musical influences, his struggles with insecurities and imposter syndrome, and the shocking, fascinating story of how he came up with the TBBT theme. Ed reflects on growing up with an alcoholic father and how he learned to navigate their relationship. He explains why his career as a pilot means so much to him and details his frightening plane crash and the intense personal struggles it brought up for him. Ed also discusses what it has been like to avoid substance use and stay committed to his marriage in the midst of a rock-and-roll landscape, plus Jonathan schools Mayim on Canadian cowboy culture!