20VC: Meta CMO Alex Schultz on The Crucible Moments Scaling Facebook to 1BN Users, Turning Facebook Reels Into a Monetisation Engine, Competing Against TikTok and SNAP, Coming Out in the World of Tech; The Challenges and What Needs to Change
Mar 6, 2023
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Alex Schultz, CMO and VP of Analytics for Meta, discusses his journey from paper planes to Facebook, scaling to 1 billion users, the challenges in people management, and the rebranding to Meta. He emphasizes the importance of patient leadership, direct and honest conversations, and understanding the limitations of metrics. He also touches on compliance, global team management, and custom internal software.
Setting goals that drive growth is crucial for success.
Analyzing data and user behavior can lead to informed product decisions and drive growth.
Finding a balance between self-serve and direct sales in advertising can result in increased advertiser growth.
Deep dives
The Importance of Setting Winning Goals
Setting goals that put you on a winning path is crucial for success. In the podcast episode, Alex Schulz, CMO and VP of Analytics for Meta (formerly Facebook), emphasizes the significance of setting goals that lead to success. He highlights the need to focus on goals that drive growth, such as increasing the number of activated confirmed registered users rather than just focusing on registered users. He also stresses the importance of learning from failures and iterating on product ideas to achieve desired outcomes.
The Shift to Messaging and the Importance of Retention
Alex Schulz discusses the strategic shift from web-based messaging to mobile messaging at Facebook. He explains how analyzing data and user behavior revealed the need for a dedicated messaging app, leading to the development of Facebook Messenger. Schulz emphasizes the importance of retention in driving growth and highlights how measuring specific actions, such as placing a bid or buying an item, can correlate with higher long-term retention. By focusing on retention and understanding user behavior, companies can make informed product and strategic decisions.
The Role of Metrics and Analytics Leadership
Schulz delves into the role of analytics leaders and the importance of data-driven decision-making. He emphasizes the need for analytics leaders who can effectively communicate data insights to stakeholders, while also being open to feedback and correction. Schulz encourages setting goals and metrics carefully, understanding the flaws in metrics, and aligning them with the overall goals of the company. He also stresses the importance of learning from failures, taking calculated risks, and moving quickly when the data supports a decision.
The Importance of Self-Serve and Direct Sales
The podcast episode discusses the importance of finding a balance between self-serve and direct sales in advertising. The speaker explains how their company implemented a strategy where users could self-serve by clicking a button to boost an ad, while also having a team that reached out to promising leads. This approach resulted in increased advertiser growth and allowed for a harmony between self-serve and direct sales.
Encouraging a Culture of Experimentation
The podcast delves into the importance of creating a culture where experimentation is encouraged. The speaker emphasizes the need to try various experiments and not rely on predictions or assumptions. They mention the importance of being willing to make mistakes and learn from them. The speaker also discusses the significance of providing feedback and creating an environment where employees feel safe to take risks and share their honest opinions.
Alex Schultz is the Chief Marketing Officer and VP of Analytics for Meta (formerly Facebook), leading Marketing, Analytics, and Internationalization. Previously, Mark Zuckerberg stood up and said, "Facebook would not be a BN user company without Alex". At Meta, Alex has pioneered the integration of product and direct response marketing at Meta and helped launch many of the company’s most impactful products and initiatives. Alex is gay and is the executive sponsor of Facebook’s LGBTQ+ Employee Resource Group.
In Today's Episode with Alex Schultz We Discuss:
1. From Paper Planes to CMO of Facebook:
How Alex started his career in the world of paper planes and how that led to his getting a role at an early eBay? What are 1-2 of his biggest lessons from eBay?
How did the role at Facebook come about in 2008? Why did he decide to join the early Facebook?
What does Alex know now that he wishes he had known when he started his time at Facebook?
2. The Secret to Scaling to 1 Billion Users:
Mark Zuckerberg has said that "Facebook would not be a billion-user company without Alex". So what does Alex believe are the 1-2 biggest needle movers in FB scaling to 1 billion users?
Why does Alex believe that the best leaders are patiently right?
How can management be direct and effective but also show they care and be kind?
What have been some of Alex's biggest lessons on people management across different phases of the company?
3. Crucible Moments in Facebook History:
Facebook Messenger Split:
What was the decision-making process behind splitting Messenger from the core Facebook App?
What did they do right and well in the split? What mistakes were made?
Rebrand to Meta:
Why did Facebook decide it was right to rebrand to Meta?
Has the rebrand gone well? How does Alex define success with the rebrand?