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Ep. 327: Ryan Hass on China’s Patient Power Play, and US-China Relations

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Sep 25, 2025
Ryan Hass, director at Brookings and expert on U.S.-China relations, dives deep into China’s strategy of gradual power accumulation and its implications for global politics. He discusses China's hardball tactics with Europe and critiques the focus on TikTok, suggesting it overshadows critical trade discussions. Ryan examines Taiwan's public opinion on unification and highlights Xi Jinping's governance style. He stresses the importance of adaptability for future graduates, sharing insights on the evolving dynamics in U.S.-China relations and global economic strategies.
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ANECDOTE

Serendipitous Career Path

  • Ryan Hass entered the Foreign Service after passing a test he thought he failed and then served in Seoul and Beijing.
  • He moved to the NSC by chance and later to Brookings after a conversation at a buffet led to a job offer.
INSIGHT

China's Patient Power Strategy

  • China aims to steadily accumulate power until its leadership is undeniable rather than force a direct showdown with the US.
  • Beijing prefers patient power-building and avoids accelerating confrontation when possible.
INSIGHT

China's Hardball With Europe

  • China has played hardball with Europe rather than launching a charm offensive, using growing leverage over EU choices.
  • Beijing patiently expects Europe to realize its economic future is tied to China and thus concedes little.
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