

Brain vs Body? How Emotions Shape Pain – With Dr. Mark Lumley
Most chronic pain care ignores one of the most powerful drivers of symptoms: our emotions.
In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Mark Lumley, a leading researcher in Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy (EAET), to explore how unprocessed emotions, trauma, and life stressors can directly influence pain — and what to do about it.
We break down:
-The differences and overlaps between EAET and Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT)
-How to help patients shift from body-focused to brain-focused views of pain
-Cultural and healthcare system barriers to addressing emotions in pain care
-Practical, evidence-based strategies for clinicians and patients
-Where the research is heading — and what it means for the future of pain treatment
Resources Mentioned:
• Dr. Mark Lumley’s University Page
• Howard Schubiner’s Unlearn Your Pain
• Association for the Treatment of Neuroplastic Symptoms (ATNS)
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