The Daily Stoic Live from the Birthplace of Stoicism | Ryan Holiday and Donald Robertson (in Greece)
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Jul 23, 2025 
Ryan Holiday is joined by Donald Robertson, a skilled cognitive-behavioral psychotherapist and expert in the intersection of modern therapy and ancient philosophy. They explore the vibrant streets of Athens, reflecting on the origins of Stoicism amidst historic ruins. The duo discusses the challenges of hosting philosophical events and the importance of preserving philosophical traditions. They also tackle universal struggles like anger and ego, emphasizing how Stoicism can guide personal growth and emotional management.
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Lunch at Stoicism's Birthplace
- Ryan Holiday visits Athens with his family, immersing in Greek history and philosophy around the Acropolis.
- He meets Donald Robertson at the Painted Porch, the birthplace of Stoicism, for a unique philosophical lunch.
Hidden Layers of Athens' Ruins
- Modern Athens has ruins beneath shops and concrete, complicating archaeological work.
- Ancient ruins like the Agora have been partially destroyed and built over through the centuries, retaining hidden history.
Stoics Gathered Publicly, Not Owned
- Stoic philosophers were likely just gathering in public spaces like the Painted Porch, not owning them.
- The social context of Stoicism involved informal meetings in public buildings, surrounded by vendors and shrines.
