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The Energy Transition Will Not Happen

Oct 2, 2024
Jean-Baptiste Fressoz, a French historian specializing in energy history, challenges the traditional narratives of energy transitions. He reveals the complex symbiotic relationships between coal, wood, and oil that have shaped our energy landscape. Fressoz critiques misconceptions about forests' roles in climate solutions and debunks myths around the oil industry's impact on whale conservation. He emphasizes the necessity of a realistic approach to climate action, urging a reevaluation of past predictions and adapting to our historical energy realities.
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Quick takeaways

  • Energy transitions are not linear but represent complex interplays between various sources, like wood, coal, and oil, throughout history.
  • The historical reliance on multiple energy forms highlights the need to rethink narratives around modern renewables and their sustainability claims.

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Energy Transition and Historical Narratives

The discussion reveals that after two centuries of energy transition, Britain's current energy production relies heavily on wood, using four times more than in the 18th century to generate just 1.5% of its energy. This challenges the dominant narrative that energy transitions signify a linear move away from traditional fuels like wood to modern coal and oil. Instead, it emphasizes that historical energy use cannot merely be framed as a replacement story, but rather as a more complex interplay of energy sources over time. The author argues that the framing of energy history needs to be reconsidered to better reflect this continuous symbiosis between energy forms.

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