
The Michael Shermer Show When Rationality Becomes Irrational
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Oct 11, 2025 Barry Schwartz, professor emeritus at Swarthmore College and author of influential works like The Paradox of Choice, delves into the complexities of decision-making. He critiques traditional rational choice theory, arguing it oversimplifies human values. Schwartz explores how automatic decisions can sometimes outshine deliberate processes and highlights the role of mental accounting in choices. The conversation also touches on the societal implications of framing and how defaults in decisions can nudge behavior effectively. He advocates for a richer understanding of decision science beyond mere quantification.
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Limits Of Rational Choice Theory
- Rational Choice Theory simplifies decisions into quantifiable utilities but misses many real-world factors.
- Barry Schwartz argues that this narrow model often fails to describe or guide real decision-making.
Pigeon Experiments Inform Perspective
- Barry Schwartz recounts his early research manipulating reward magnitude with pigeons and rats.
- He uses this to link behaviorist experiments to simplified economic models of incentives.
Simplification Breaks Generality
- Experiments deliberately simplify complex worlds, but results may not generalize when you reintroduce complexity.
- Schwartz warns that assuming simplified causal relationships hold in the real world is often mistaken.













