From Beijing to Cairo: Peter Hessler on What Makes a Real Revolution

Jun 7, 2019

Peter Hessler, a veteran journalist known for his insightful reporting on China and Egypt, shares his experiences from years spent in both countries. He reflects on the contrasts between the Tiananmen Square massacre and the 2013 coup in Cairo, exploring the complexities of revolutions. The podcast delves into cultural connections, examining how Egyptians view China positively amidst political unrest. Hessler also discusses the intricate ties between religion and societal change in both nations, emphasizing the role of history in shaping identities.

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ANECDOTE

Move to Egypt

Peter Hessler and Leslie Chang, both longtime China correspondents, decided to move elsewhere in 2007.
They considered India but chose Egypt, prioritizing a single language and archaeological interest.

ANECDOTE

Staying Through the Coup

Jordan, the podcast host, had planned to work in Egypt in 2013 but cancelled due to the coup and violence.
Hessler's family stayed despite the coup, highlighting their commitment to staying.

INSIGHT

Reflections on Tiananmen and Egypt

Hessler compares the Tiananmen Square massacre to Egyptian protests, noting differences in police response.
Chinese police, despite the Tiananmen crackdown, showed more organization in crowd control than Egyptian police.

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