Product Growth Podcast
How to Go from PM to VP - My Story
Apr 26, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Brad Schaefer, VP of Product at Abrego, shares his ascent from intern to VP, emphasizing the importance of real-world experience over formal education. He and fellow VP Aakash reveal key strategies for transitioning from product manager roles to leadership positions, including the use of a career matrix for promotion insights. They also discuss proactive visibility, the role of strategic thinking, and essential leadership traits for PMs aiming for executive roles, all peppered with personal anecdotes and actionable advice.
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Quick takeaways
- Transitioning into product management can begin from various roles, emphasizing the importance of understanding customer needs and gaining relevant experience.
- Advancing from product manager to senior product manager hinges on expert ownership of specific products while embracing challenges for personal growth.
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Starting Low and Building Experience
Beginning a career in product management typically involves starting in lower positions such as an internship or entry-level job. Many successful product managers have transitioned from roles in support or implementation, gaining valuable insights into product development without requiring a formal internship. Learning about customer needs through discovery, bug testing, and documentation can pave the way to a full-time position in product management. Demonstrating value and showing a keen interest in product-related responsibilities often leads to securing a position on a product team.
