

#29 - Stephen Zerfas | Jhanas and Hacking Agency
Nov 8, 2024
In this conversation with Stephen Zerfas, CEO of Jhourney, the discussion revolves around accessing specific meditative states known as jhanas through innovative methods. Zerfas shares how participants can enter profound emotional states in just 40 hours, making meditation more accessible than ever. The chat also covers the power of genuine smiles for emotional well-being, parallels between software debugging and personal growth, and how empathy can enhance relationships. Tune in to explore joy through meditation and personal transformation!
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Stephen's Breakthrough Retreat Story
- Stephen Zerfas shares his low point and Vipassana retreat experience leading to a breakthrough in meditation practice.
- His discovery of loving-kindness infused body scanning helped him access profound bliss and altered states.
Debug Meditation with Playful Experimentation
- Use debugging and experimentation to increase agency in meditation practice.
- Reflect like a scientist but play like a child to maintain flow and enjoyment.
Make Meditation Fun and Curious
- Meditation is fun when approached with curiosity and ease, leading to better results.
- Assume you don't know what curiosity, enjoyment, or relaxation truly mean to explore meditation authentically.