Jennifer Michael Hecht, a poet and historian known for her book 'The Wonder Paradox,' delves into the intersection of poetry and spirituality without traditional religious frameworks. She discusses how poetry can fulfill the human need for meaning, serving as a secular ritual that articulates deep emotions. Hecht shares insights on navigating existential questions and the communal bonds fostered through shared poetic experiences, all while exploring how secular practices can provide emotional fulfillment and moral frameworks.
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Jennifer Michael Hecht's Journey
Jennifer Michael Hecht became known as an atheist after writing Doubt: A History.
She noticed atheists sought meaning and rituals in life beyond traditional religious frameworks.
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Life's Mess of Paradoxes
Hecht observes that human existence is inherently paradoxical, encompassing ambition and mortality.
Poetry, like life, explores these paradoxes.
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Hecht's Early Exposure to Atheism and Poetry
Hecht's father was an atheist physicist, while her mother was religious.
A Rilke poem in her junior high library helped her find peace with her atheism.
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Sean Illing speaks with poet and historian Jennifer Michael Hecht, whose new book The Wonder Paradox asks: if we don't have God or religion, what — if anything — do we lose? They discuss how religion accesses meaning — through things like prayer, ceremony, and ritual — and Jennifer speaks on the ways that poetry can play similar roles in a secular way. They also discuss some of the "tricks" that poets use, share favorite poems, and explore what it would mean to "live the questions" — and even learn to love them — without having the answers.
Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area
Guest: Jennifer Michael Hecht (@Freudeinstein), poet, historian; author