The Dave Chang Show Dry-Aged vs. Wet-Aged Steak, "The Secret," and the American Chef Pantheon With Bill Simmons
Jan 26, 2026
Bill Simmons, founder and CEO of The Ringer and cultural sports commentator. They spar over dry-aged versus wet-aged steak and cooking techniques. Bill reveals his “secret” about team-first success and talent spotting. They debate the top American chefs and whether filmmakers can be great without filming food.
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Dry‑Aged Steak Conversion
- Dave Chang cooked Bill Simmons two steaks (40-day dry-aged filet and a wet-aged ribeye) and sides while discussing wet vs dry-aged preferences.
- Bill initially hates dry-aged steak but concedes Dave's dry-aged version was superior after tasting it.
Master Roles, Avoid 'The Disease Of More'
- Bill Simmons says greatness comes from putting team needs above individual glory and mastering your role.
- He ties this to Pat Riley's 'disease of more' as the main threat to sustaining success.
The Secret Is Team First
- Bill Simmons'
