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Dave is joined by the Podfather himself, the founder and CEO of The Ringer, Bill Simmons.

Dave makes steaks that challenge Bill's wet-aged vs. dry-aged opinions, and then they discuss his "secret to basketball," which applies to much more than just sports—and explains Bill's unique ability to find and foster talent, as well as predict future trends.

They finish with a discussion of the top five American chefs in history and a MOIF about whether or not a movie director can be considered great if they've never filmed food.

P.S.: The Dave Chang Show is now on Netflix!

Check out The Bill Simmons Podcast: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-bill-simmons-podcast

Check out The Rewatchables: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/the-rewatchables

Check out The Ringer: https://www.theringer.com/

Learn more about Antico Nuovo: https://www.anticonuovo-la.com/

Learn more about Craft: https://www.craftrestaurant.com/

Learn more about 'The French Laundry Cookbook': https://amzn.to/3NNz2NA

Learn more about Café Boulud: https://cafeboulud.com/nyc/

Check out 'Dinner Time Live': https://www.netflix.com/title/81748864

Learn more about Chi Spacca: https://www.chispacca.com/

Learn more about Super Peach: https://www.momofuku.com/restaurants/super-peach

Learn more about Primanti Bros.: https://primantibros.com/

Learn more about Philippe's: https://philippes.com/

Get a copy of 'The Book of Basketball': https://amzn.to/3NDi70e

Learn more about the Brainrot app: https://thebrainrotapp.com/

Learn more about Bianco: https://www.pizzeriabianco.com/

Learn more about BCD Tofu House: https://www.bcdtofuhouse.com/

Read Bill's Streep column: https://www.espn.com/espnmag/story?id=3965213

Learn more about Commander's Palace: https://www.commanderspalace.com/

Get Bill's favorite Momofuku sweet and spicy sauce: https://shop.momofuku.com/products/sweet-spicy-bbq-sauce?srsltid=AfmBOoqjxshHlzC47CjTyKZnkCzgkgGTscF5XkScOpgry3SpwHxN4vuu

Learn more about Yang Chow: https://yangchow.com/

Check out Recipe Club: https://www.theringer.com/podcasts/recipe-club

Check us out at Majordomo: https://www.majordomo.com/

Host: Dave Chang

Guest: Bill Simmons

Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer

Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino

Additional Crew: Nikola Stanjevich, Dan McCoy, Michael Berger, Elizabeth Styles

Sound Engineer: Kevin Cureghian

Editor: Jake Loskutoff

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