The Psychedelic Podcast Fleet Maull, Ph.D. - Radical Embodiment: Neuro-Somatic Mindfulness & Psychedelics
Oct 6, 2025
Fleet Maull, Ph.D., a meditation teacher and founder of HeartMind Institute, shares his transformative journey from federal prison to becoming a pioneer in Neuro-Somatic Mindfulness (NSM). He discusses how NSM offers a more embodied approach to mindfulness, emphasizing sensation over conceptual thought. Fleet explains the five brain networks NSM targets and how integrating psychedelics like ketamine and psilocybin enhances healing. His insights provide valuable guidance for those seeking deeper stability and transformation in psychedelic practices.
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Monastic Transformation In Prison
- Fleet Maull described taking monastic vows and practicing intensively during his 14-year federal prison sentence.
- He used that time to found prison programs and transform his life through disciplined practice.
Starting Prison Hospice Movement
- While at the federal medical center, Fleet helped start the first known prison hospice program during the height of the AIDS epidemic.
- That work scaled to dozens of prison hospices and formed part of his post-release nonprofit efforts.
NSM Is Radically Embodied Mindfulness
- Neurosomatic Mindfulness (NSM) is a radically embodied, neuroscience- and trauma-informed evolution of classic mindfulness.
- Fleet synthesized decades of Buddhist, Zen, and secular practices into an embodied attention training.