

The Psychedelic Podcast
Third Wave
The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you're just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you'll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
Episodes
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Nov 24, 2025 • 55min
Somatic Intelligence: Healing Trauma Through Embodiment - Chen Lizra
In this engaging conversation, Chen Lizra, a somatic coach and expert in trauma healing, shares her transformative journey from childhood trauma to becoming a facilitator of somatic intelligence. Chen discusses how trauma is stored in the body and the crucial role of nervous system regulation in healing. She emphasizes the power of movement, breath, and plant medicine like ayahuasca in achieving emotional mastery. Listeners will discover practical daily somatic practices and insights into embodying divine feminine energy for deeper emotional release.

Nov 17, 2025 • 53min
Amanita Awakening: The Future of Functional Fungi - Jeff Stevens & David Shisel
Jeff Stevens, CEO of Psyched Wellness, and David Shisel, COO, share their journey in bringing Amanita muscaria extract to the mainstream. They delve into the unique pharmacology of the mushroom, the rigorous safety testing required for approval in Canada, and the delicate balance between innovation and regulation. The duo discusses their commitment to transparency, the risks of unregulated products, and the potential benefits of microdosing. With exciting product developments on the horizon, they aim to reintroduce this ancient mushroom safely to modern wellness.

Nov 10, 2025 • 52min
Functional Psychedelics: Rewiring Relationships & Business Growth - Jay Fiset
Join best-selling author and entrepreneur Jay Fiset as he dives into the transformative power of Functional Psychedelics. He shares personal stories about how these experiences reshaped his marriage and business, emphasizing emotional intelligence and trauma-informed coaching. Discover the importance of integration for meaningful transformation and how psychedelics can enhance leadership. Jay also discusses the unique opportunities in the evolving psychedelic landscape and the ethical considerations for practitioners.

Nov 3, 2025 • 54min
Feminine Intelligence: Psychedelics, Leadership & the Future of Business - Elina Teboul
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin speaks with Elina Teboul, author of Feminine Intelligence: Visionary Leaders Reshaping Business. A former corporate attorney turned leadership coach, Elina explores how psychedelics and altered states can reconnect leaders to empathy, purpose, and environmental stewardship. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-328/?ref=278 Drawing on her background in law, psychology, and mindfulness, Elina shares how "feminine intelligence" can help leaders balance logic with intuition and reimagine business through love, creativity, and service. Elina Teboul is a leadership expert and executive coach with degrees in psychology and law from Columbia University. She founded Light Up Lab, serves as an executive coach with The Preston Associates, and sits on the advisory board of the Earth Law Center. Her work bridges corporate leadership with spiritual and ecological awareness, offering a transformative model for conscious capitalism. Highlights: From Big Law to psychedelic leadership Integrating empathy and purpose in business Psychedelics as tools for wholeness Positive psychology for high-stress professions Conscious capitalism and planetary stewardship Ethical frameworks for psychedelics at work Episode Links Elina's Website Book: Feminine Intelligence Episode Sponsor The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave's Psychedelic Coaching Institute. The Microdosing Practitioner Certification by Third Wave's Psychedelic Coaching Institute helps you master Paul F. Austin's microdosing protocol and build a meaningful, profitable coaching practice in just 4 months. Early Bird pricing: $4,000 (until November 16). Program begins January 6, 2026. Golden Rule Mushrooms - Get a lifetime discount of 10% with code THIRDWAVE at checkout

Oct 27, 2025 • 51min
From Placebo to Plasticity: What LSD Really Does – Conor Murray, Ph.D.
Conor H. Murray, Ph.D., a neuroscientist from UCLA and founder of Psynautics, shares groundbreaking insights on psychedelics' effects on the brain. He discusses his LSD microdosing research, revealing significant increases in neural complexity that could influence treatments for depression and addiction. Conor also explains how different dosages impact brain activity and describes his ongoing psilocybin study aimed at addressing cocaine addiction. The conversation highlights the potential of citizen science in understanding altered states of consciousness.

Oct 20, 2025 • 59min
The Peptide Paradigm: Biology, Regeneration & Evolutionary Health – Jay Campbell
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin speaks with Jay Campbell, five-time bestselling author, men's physique champion, and founder of BioLongevity Labs. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-326/?ref=278 Together they explore how peptides, hormones, and energy form a new model of regenerative health. Jay explains how these signaling molecules work at the cellular level and why coherence and self-awareness are essential to sustainable vitality. The discussion bridges scientific rigor with personal transformation—redefining what it means to be "optimized." Jay Campbell is a bestselling author, athlete, and co-founder of BioLongevity Labs. Recognized for his expertise in hormone and peptide science, he blends decades of physical training experience with a deep understanding of consciousness and energetic alignment. Highlights: Peptides as a bridge between biology and consciousness Why emotional regulation supports physical health The "God Stack" for daily optimization How light and sound technologies aid healing The future of energy-based medicine Love and service as true performance enhancers Episode Links: BioLongevity Labs - Use Code THIRDWAVE for 15% off Jay's Website Episode Sponsors The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave's Psychedelic Coaching Institute. Golden Rule Mushrooms - Get a lifetime discount of 10% with code THIRDWAVE at checkout

Oct 13, 2025 • 44min
Kevin Cannella - Psychedelic Therapy for Everyone: Breaking Cost Barriers to Healing
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Kevin Cannella, co-founder and executive director of Thank You Life, a nonprofit removing financial barriers to psychedelic therapy. Kevin shares his path from early mystical experiences and time at a Peruvian retreat center to becoming a licensed professional counselor and MAPS-trained therapist, then building a pay-it-forward fund that partners with clinics nationwide. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-325/?ref=278 Kevin explains how Thank You Life works with 120+ ketamine clinics, why group programs matter for cost and connection, and what's realistic about insurance coverage today. He also explores integration support, community pods, and how state partnerships could expand access for veterans, first responders, and more. Kevin Cannella is the co-founder and executive director of Thank You Life, a 501(c)(3) psychedelic therapy access fund. A licensed professional counselor and MAPS-trained psychedelic therapist, Kevin founded the organization with Dr. Dan Engle to eliminate the financial barriers that prevent many from accessing psychedelic healing. Thank You Life partners with over 120 ketamine clinics in 35 states, offering financial assistance and group support programs to individuals in need. Rooted in his own transformative journey with meditation, intensive retreat work, and psychotherapy, Kevin is dedicated to advancing health equity, reciprocity, and compassionate care in the psychedelic field. Highlights: Service-driven path into psychedelic care Founding Thank You Life as a pay-it-forward fund Partnering with 120+ ketamine clinics nationwide Group ketamine care: cost and community benefits Insurance realities: Spravato vs. generic ketamine Integration support through clinics and community pods Scaling access via philanthropy and state partnerships Episode Sponsors: Golden Rule Mushrooms - Get a lifetime discount of 10% with code THIRDWAVE at checkout The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave's Psychedelic Coaching Institute.

Oct 6, 2025 • 1h 1min
Fleet Maull, Ph.D. - Radical Embodiment: Neuro-Somatic Mindfulness & Psychedelics
Fleet Maull, Ph.D., a meditation teacher and founder of HeartMind Institute, shares his transformative journey from federal prison to becoming a pioneer in Neuro-Somatic Mindfulness (NSM). He discusses how NSM offers a more embodied approach to mindfulness, emphasizing sensation over conceptual thought. Fleet explains the five brain networks NSM targets and how integrating psychedelics like ketamine and psilocybin enhances healing. His insights provide valuable guidance for those seeking deeper stability and transformation in psychedelic practices.

Sep 29, 2025 • 52min
Lena Franklin - From Loss to Liberation: Grief, Psilocybin, and Spiritual Growth
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin sits down with medicine woman and transpersonal psychotherapist Lena Franklin to explore grief as a doorway to the sacred, bridging clinical training with embodied spirituality, and the ethics of honoring indigenous lineages in modern practice. Find full show notes and links here: http://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-323?ref=278 Lena shares "The Method," a 90-day psilocybin-supported program (three ceremonies + twelve sessions), and reflects on lessons learned from founding and composting EAST Institute. She also previews a new global initiative for advanced, root-cause healing centers and closes with an embodied playbook for leaders. Lena Franklin is a Medicine Woman, Transpersonal Psychotherapist, and transformational speaker bridging ancient medicine and modern technology for global healing. Raised in a Buddhist/Christian home, she integrates Eastern philosophy with Western neuroscience across meditation, energy medicine, longevity, human optimization, plant medicine, shamanism, and ecosystem consciousness. Formally trained in psychology (B.S.) and clinical social work (M.S.) at the University of Georgia, Lena weaves lineages from Mahayana Buddhism, Mopan Maya Ancient Medicine, Q'ero Peruvian shamanism, and Shipibo wisdom into ceremonial and teaching work worldwide. She founded The QUINTESSENCE Approach for activating Revolutionary Medicine Woman leadership, The BEING Method for mindfulness-based human potential, and The Meditation Membership of audio/video teachings. Her work has been featured in Vogue, The New York Times, Telegraph, and more. Highlights: Grief as a sacred portal Clinician and mystic, not either/or Lineage stewardship and councils of elders "Harm reduction is bi-directional" Lessons from founding EAST Institute The 90-day, three-ceremony Method From psycho-emotional to psycho-spiritual Why assessment must stay rigorous Vision for root-cause healing centers Daily grounding for embodied leadership Episode Links: Lena's website Lena on Instagram Episode Sponsor: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave's Psychedelic Coaching Institute Golden Rule Mushrooms - Get a lifetime discount of 10% with code THIRDWAVE at checkout

Sep 22, 2025 • 57min
Sterling Cooley - Xenon as Medicine: Exploring the Psychedelic Noble Gas
Sterling Cooley, a researcher and biotech entrepreneur, dives into the fascinating world of xenon, a noble gas with potential psychedelic-like effects. He shares how a personal health crisis led him to explore the therapeutic properties of xenon over other anesthetics like nitrous oxide and ketamine. Sterling explains its connection to microtubules and consciousness, discussing euphoria and visionary experiences reported by users. The conversation also touches on harm reduction and safe practices for exploring xenon’s unique effects.


