Unholy: Two Jews on the News Trump's Board of Peace - and Unholy Listeners' Therapy with Dr. Orna Guralnik
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Jan 23, 2026 
Dr. Orna Guralnik, a clinical psychologist known for her work on Couples Therapy, joins to explore intricate relationship dynamics and provide therapeutic insights. The hosts dissect Trump's controversial 'Board of Peace' and its implications for Gaza, while Orna leads a poignant session with Danish teens, Benjamin and Albert, who navigate their starkly opposing views on Israel. Their candid discussion reveals how friendship can thrive despite disagreement and the importance of empathy in challenging conversations.
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Trump’s Board As A New International Player
- Jonathan frames Trump's "Board of Peace" as a gold-plated rival to the UN that centers the US and charges to play.
- He warns this may replace parts of the post-war international order and reshape influence in the Middle East.
Israeli Anxiety Over External Roles In Gaza
- Yonit highlights Israeli unease at Qatar and Turkey's roles and the ambiguity over how Hamas would be disarmed.
- She points out Israelis fear foreign influence in Gaza and doubt the plan's practicality.
Personalized Power Makes Allies Vulnerable
- Jonathan stresses Trump-personalized control: he calls it Donald Trump, not the US president, and plans to designate successors.
- He warns Israel could find itself vulnerable to Trump’s transactional priorities.