
Unholy: Two Jews on the News
Yonit Levi of Israel's Channel 12 News and Jonathan Freedland of The Guardian are two of the most prominent journalists in the world today. They are also Jews. Each week, join what MSNBC's Rachel Maddow calls "two great, smart smart smart hosts" as they dissect and debate current events shaping Israel, Jewish life - and the wider world.
Their blend of nuanced discussion and sparkling conversation, featuring a dazzling range of guests, is why New Yorker editor David Remnick calls himself a “proud, avid listener," why Ira Glass says he "completely enjoys this show" and why Malcolm Gladwell calls it an "incredibly fun podcast".
For a weekly fix of globally informed talk – including nominations for the greatest act of chutzpah and outstanding mensch of the previous seven days – there’s only one destination. Make every Friday morning Unholy.
Contact us via: unholy@unholy-media.com
Latest episodes

Jun 17, 2025 • 16min
Israel-Iran war: on life in Iran with Beni Sabti
Beni Sabti, an Iran expert at the Israeli Institute for National Security Studies and a native of Iran, joins the discussion. They explore life under the Iranian regime, revealing the daily struggles of ordinary citizens facing oppression. Beni shares insights on the prospects for regime change and highlights the role of social media in voicing dissent. The conversation also uncovers evolving perceptions between Israelis and Iranians, driven by personal stories and historical context, while sharing nostalgic memories that paint a complex yet hopeful picture of Iran's future.

Jun 15, 2025 • 26min
Israel-Iran war: Sunday update with Amos Harel
Yonit speaks with Amos Harel, a military analyst for Aretz newspaper, about the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran following a deadly attack on Israeli civilians. They discuss the impact on daily life and the resilience of the Israeli population. Harel delves into Israel's military strategies and the challenges posed by Iran's nuclear program. The conversation also touches on the role of U.S. military support amidst political divides and the implications of recent military advancements on both sides.

Jun 13, 2025 • 28min
Special update - Israel at war with Iran | With Dr. Suzanne Maloney
Suzanne Maloney, a Vice President at the Brookings Institution and an authority on Iranian affairs, discusses the recent escalation between Israel and Iran. She unpacks Israel's airstrikes targeting Iran's nuclear sites and the immediate fallout. The conversation delves into the strategic military calculations by both nations, highlighting fears of Iranian retaliation and the intricacies of regional stability. Maloney also examines how these events could affect Iran's nuclear ambitions, showcasing the complexities of modern geopolitical tensions in the Middle East.

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Jun 12, 2025 • 59min
Israeli strike on Iran inching closer, Netanyahu survives another crisis and Special Guest Yuval Noah Harari
This week features Yuval Noah Harari, a prominent Israeli historian and author of 'Sapiens.' He shares insights on the escalating tensions between Israel and Iran, as the possibility of a military strike looms. The discussion dives into the complexities of Israeli politics and the implications for future relations. Harari also reflects on the transformative challenges posed by AI, emphasizing the need for ethical frameworks. He further explores how minorities can influence history and the importance of civility in today's fractious political landscape.

Jun 5, 2025 • 1h 2min
Terror attack in Colorado, humanitarian crisis in Gaza, and Dr. Nadine Baudot-Trajtenberg on the economic toll of the war
Join Dr. Nadine Baudot-Trachtenberg, an Israeli economist and former Deputy Governor of the Bank of Israel, as she offers insights into the economic toll of prolonged conflict. The discussion includes the rising threat of anti-Semitism linked to current tensions and highlights the challenges of humanitarian aid in Gaza. They also delve into the implications of Israel's political landscape on the economy, particularly regarding military service exemptions and the potential for economic reform amidst ongoing turmoil. Baudot-Trachtenberg sheds light on the resilience of society in these tough times.

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May 29, 2025 • 1h 17min
Jake Sullivan on Bibi and Trump, Saudi Normalization and the Biden Era
Jake Sullivan, former National Security Advisor and current Kissinger Professor at Harvard, dives deep into the turbulent Middle East landscape. He analyzes Israel's potential military actions against Iran and the precarious situation in Gaza. Sullivan reflects on U.S. foreign policy shifts under both Biden and Trump, especially regarding Saudi normalization. He also addresses the Biden administration's challenges, discussing leadership dynamics and personal aspirations post-office. A compelling look at current global diplomacy and security!

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May 22, 2025 • 1h 9min
Shooting in DC, Israel's diplomatic tsunami, Gary Lineker's own goal, and Guest Jonah Platt
Join actor and writer Jonah Platt, known for his Broadway role in Wicked, as he shares insights on being Jewish in Hollywood. The discussion delves into the tragic D.C. shooting and rising anti-Semitism, emphasizing community resilience and the need for open dialogue on Israeli issues. Platt offers a personal take on the importance of Jewish identity and the entertainment industry’s evolving landscape. He talks about navigating tough conversations and the positive impact of being outspoken, highlighting the challenges and triumphs of the Jewish experience today.

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May 15, 2025 • 58min
Trump‘s Middle East odyssey, a hostage returns, Gaza on the brink
Dr. Sanam Vakil, Director at Chatham House, dives into the complexities shaping the Middle East. She discusses Trump's tour and its implications for US-Iran relations, amid talks of a nuclear deal. The emotional toll of hostage negotiations is highlighted with the release of Edan Alexander, shedding light on Israel’s role and the broader impacts on society. Vakil also addresses the escalating humanitarian crisis in Gaza and the ethical considerations involved, emphasizing the urgent need for action in the face of geopolitical tensions.

May 8, 2025 • 55min
Escalation - with Amos Harel
Amos Harel, a seasoned military journalist for Haaretz, dives deep into the escalating conflict in Gaza and the evolving dynamics between Trump and Netanyahu. He shares insights on military strategies and their humanitarian impacts, while contemplating the political pressures shaping these decisions. Harel also discusses the recent fires near Jerusalem and their historical significance, all while juxtaposing heavy military discussions with cultural reflections, including a new play centered on Roald Dahl's controversial views.

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Apr 30, 2025 • 1h 4min
77 and counting - with Eyal Waldman (featuring Emily Damari)
Eyal Waldman, co-founder of Mellanox Technologies and a father grieving the tragic loss of his daughter, shares his insights on Israel's tumultuous political landscape and personal trauma. He discusses the emotional duality of Independence and Memorial Days, reflecting on grief amidst national celebrations. Waldman also dives into the challenges facing Israel's high-tech sector and the pivotal role of Mellanox in shaping NVIDIA's AI advancements. Balancing innovation with ethical challenges, he offers a glimpse of hope for the future amid societal turmoil.