#107 To Win You Must Suffer.

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Dec 15, 2025

Success isn't about luck or talent; it's about enduring pain and persistence. Leaders face various archetypes and must recognize them to win. Most successful people work far harder than their public personas suggest, revealing a massive effort discrepancy. The startup landscape is more competitive than ever, with millions launching annually. Debunking passive income myths, the reality is four-hour workweeks rarely work. Codie emphasizes the dangers of comparing your journey to others and urges you to keep pushing forward despite the struggle.

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Winning Demands Sustained Suffering

Winning requires enduring more pain and longer timelines than most expect.
Codie Sanchez frames success as sustained suffering, not motivation or manifesting.

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People Fit Predictable Leadership Types

People around you fall into predictable psychological types that shape outcomes.
Recognizing these types helps you manage conflict and lead more effectively.

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Lead Like A Calm Captain

Act like a calm, rational captain during chaos and hold the line in hard conversations.
Downregulate others, stay unemotional, and lead through storms to be a strategic leader.

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To Win You Must Suffer

00:50 • 1min

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Six Types of People Leaders Face

02:07 • 2min

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Becoming the Strategic Leader

04:28 • 2min

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Everybody Is Trying Harder Than You Think

06:33 • 2min

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Highlight Reel & Survivorship Bias

08:57 • 1min

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More Competition Than You Want

10:22 • 4min

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Why Four-Hour Workweeks Fail

14:21 • 3min

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Operating Systems and Advisors Matter

17:07 • 43sec

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Stop Comparing Yourself to Others

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The hard thing about hard things

building a business when there are no easy answers

Ben Horowitz

In this book, Ben Horowitz shares his personal and often humbling experiences in the tech industry to offer essential advice and practical wisdom. He addresses various hard decisions and challenges that business leaders face, such as firing friends, managing company culture, handling layoffs, and making tough strategic decisions. Horowitz emphasizes the importance of honesty, resilience, and adaptability in leadership, drawing from his experiences with companies like Loudcloud and Andreessen Horowitz.

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The 4 Hour Workweek

Tim Ferriss

In 'The 4-Hour Workweek', Timothy Ferriss presents a step-by-step guide to 'lifestyle design', encouraging readers to question the traditional notion of retirement and instead create a lifestyle that prioritizes freedom, adventure, and personal growth. The book teaches how to outsource life tasks, automate income, and eliminate unnecessary work using principles like the 80/20 rule and Parkinson’s Law. Ferriss shares his personal journey from a corporate workaholic to a location-independent entrepreneur and provides practical tips and case studies to help readers achieve similar results. The book emphasizes the importance of focusing on high-value activities, taking 'mini-retirements', and living life to the fullest in the present rather than deferring enjoyment until retirement.

Most people think success comes from talent, timing, or luck. The brutal truth? It comes from suffering. After building multiple seven and eight-figure businesses and investing in hundreds of companies, I've learned the one thing nobody wants to tell you: to win, you must be willing to endure more pain than everyone else. This isn't about motivation or manifestation — it's about the cold, hard reality of what it actually takes to build the life you want in 2025 and beyond.

In this raw, unfiltered episode, I break down the four brutal truths that will either make or break your success: why four-hour work weeks are a myth (the data shows 85-90% of businesses require daily founder involvement), why everyone is trying harder than you think they are (and hiding it), why there's more competition than you want to admit (305 million startups launched globally last year alone), and why most people will never communicate honestly. I reveal the six types of people you'll face as a leader — from the reactive responder to the strategic warrior — and why only one of them actually wins. You'll learn about effort concealment, survivorship bias, and why 80% of people think they're above average (spoiler: they're not).

But this isn't just about what's broken — it's about what actually works. I expose why the passive income dream applies to less than 1% of the population, why 95% of Shopify stores never make a single sale, and why comparing your reality to someone else's highlight reel is killing your progress. If you've ever felt like you're behind, or wondered why success seems easier for everyone else, or if you're ready to stop believing the lies and start doing the hard work that actually matters, this episode will change how you think about winning forever.

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00:00:00 Introduction 00:00:54 To Win You Must Suffer 00:01:36 The Six Types of People You'll Face as a Leader 00:04:25 Becoming the Strategic Leader 00:06:32 Everybody Is Trying Harder Than You Think 00:08:12 The Highlight Reel Deception 00:10:30 More Competition Than You Want to Admit 00:13:09 The Startup Gold Rush: The Math Behind Competition 00:14:18 Four Hour Work Weeks Do Not Work 00:16:21 The Contrarian Boardroom Solution 00:17:28 Stop Comparing Your Worst to Others' Best

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