OUR TOP PODCAST MOMENTS SO FAR

Jul 24, 2025

Anil Malhotra, founder at Bango, shares insights on the booming subscription economy, revealing how younger audiences now bundle payments across various services, not just entertainment. Jasmine Dawson, a senior executive at BBC Studios, discusses the shift from vanity metrics to deeper engagement through fandom-driven KPIs, emphasizing a creator mindset for legacy studios. Together, they explore the convergence of tech and content, tackling issues like discovery fatigue that affects audience retention in today’s rapidly changing media landscape.

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ANECDOTE

Pod Spouses With Complementary Views

Marion and Evan describe their chemistry and podcast partnership as a 'mind meld.'
They credit complementary perspectives for the show's tone and listener appeal.

INSIGHT

Europe’s Platform-First Play

Europe is innovating with regional collaboration and infrastructure over a single SVOD champion.
Jonas Engwall of Bedrock argues pan-European tech platforms can power multiple local players to scale.

INSIGHT

Bundling Beyond Video

Bundles now include retail, social and AI subscriptions beyond video and broadband.
Anil Malhotra says this convergence could grow the subscription economy toward a trillion-dollar market.

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On this special episode of The Media Odyssey Podcast, hosts Marion Ranchet and Evan Shapiro discuss their favorite moments from Season 1.

Evan and Marion select standout clips that capture the biggest themes, surprises, and insights from across the year. It’s a thoughtful, high-energy wrap-up on the state of media through the lens of prediction, collaboration, tech disruption, and creator evolution.

This isn’t just a recap, it’s a snapshot of the tectonic shifts reshaping the global content economy, from bundling to content discovery to fandom as KPI.

Key Takeaways:

1. Europe Is Driving Media Innovation
In a moment of validation for Marion’s early prediction that 2024 would be the year of France, the episode revisits a conversation with Bedrock CEO Jonas Engwall. His vision of a shared pan-European tech platform reflects a new path forward: regional collaboration and infrastructure investment over a singular SVOD champion.

2. Bundling Is the New Normal, but Not Just for Video
Bango’s Anil Malhotra explores how telcos, retailers, and even social media apps are bundling subscriptions in new, creative ways. Gen Z is paying not just for Netflix, but also for AI tools and retail. The subscription economy is no longer just about entertainment; it’s a trillion-dollar convergence.

3. Discovery Fatigue Is Real—and Fixable
Content discovery is one of the industry’s most overlooked problems. Calle Sjönell of Swipefinder shares a startling stat: 20 minutes spent searching per streaming session, with 20% of users giving up entirely. Fixing discovery isn’t a UI tweak—it’s central to retention, monetization, and consumer loyalty.

4. Traditional Studios Must Think Like Creators
The BBC’s Jasmine Dawson breaks down how a legacy studio can reorient KPIs toward fandom, not views. Alongside creator Amelia Dimoldenberg, she illustrates how creators and institutions alike must evolve together and adopt flexible metrics, platform-specific content, and pure-play IP strategies.

5. Media Alignment, Not Chaos
Despite the perceived chaos of streaming, Marion and Evan argue that we’re entering a phase of settling and strategic realignment. From France Télévisions teaming with Amazon to platform consolidations and retail bundling, the market is moving from fragmentation to formation.

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(00:00) - Introduction and Season Highlights
(00:36) - Jazz and Podcasting Chemistry
(01:11) - Reflecting on the Season
(02:11) - Diverse Perspectives and Guest Contributions
(03:07) - Favorite Episodes and Clips
(06:22) - European Media Innovations
(17:58) - Content Discovery Challenges
(24:58) - Creator Economy Insights
(29:45) - Conclusion and Next Episode Tease