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Interview only w/ Dr. Michael Osterholm - America Is DANGEROUSLY Unprepared For The Next Pandemic

Sep 25, 2025
Dr. Michael Osterholm, a leading infectious disease expert and epidemiologist, discusses America's alarming lack of pandemic preparedness. He warns that COVID-19 was not the worst we could face, with more lethal coronaviruses on the horizon. Osterholm highlights political failures, the rise of anti-vaccine sentiment, and the need for nonpartisan after-action reviews. He stresses the potential of mRNA technology in rapid vaccine development, calls for improved public health infrastructure, and emphasizes the importance of local responses to future outbreaks.
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INSIGHT

Public Health Leadership Is Hollowed Out

  • The U.S. public health system is being politically hollowed out, leaving few scientific leaders in key positions.
  • Michael Osterholm warns this weakens our ability to respond to imminent infectious threats.
INSIGHT

A Deadlier Coronavirus Is Plausible

  • Coronaviruses exist that could match COVID's spread and SARS/MERS-level lethality, producing far higher death rates.
  • Osterholm calls this realistic and urges urgent preparedness rather than fatalism.
ADVICE

Scale mRNA Manufacturing Now

  • Invest in mRNA manufacturing capacity to produce pandemic flu vaccines for the world within a year.
  • Osterholm argues this could prevent millions of deaths versus old egg-based methods.
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