Mike Hill joins for me for a multi-episode exploration of the masterful book “Lila: An Inquiry Into Morals” written by best-selling author Robert Pirsig. This book may be one of the most undervalued ever written, as it proposes an alternative interpretation of reality that Pirsig calls “The Metaphysics of Quality” (MOQ). According to MOQ, reality is not made up of substance, but rather it is composed of distinct patterns of value. In a Copernican-like revolution of perspective, MOQ sheds new light on age-old debates such as moral relativism, the nature of subject-object duality, good vs. evil, science vs. religion, the importance of freedom, and the primacy of action.
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Transcript:
OUTLINE
00:00:00 “What is Money?” Intro
00:00:08 Symbolic and Metaphysical Descriptors of Value
00:03:01 The Logos: Gathering Things Together Under a Common Name
00:03:48 The Fractal Structure of (Static and Dynamic) Value
00:07:10 Defining “Fractal”
00:08:50 Inorganic and Intellectual Mass: “Matter” and “What Matters”
00:11:00 Etymology as Walking Backwards Through the Fractal Tree of Language
00:12:30 Unpacking the Meta-Narrative of Lila
00:16:45 Static Quality as a Ledger Written by Dynamic Quality
00:21:24 Returning to the Lila Meta-Narrative…
00:29:41 The Duality of Lila
00:32:24 NYDIG
00:33:31 Polysemic Storytelling
00:37:39 The Middle Way of Truth
00:39:48 The Philosophy of American Pragmatism on Truth
00:42:06 The Middle Way of Transjectivity
00:43:15 Pirsig’s Indexing System for Constructing his Metaphysics
00:47:41 Random Access Memory (RAM), Freedom, and Dynamic Quality
00:51:53 The Intensity of Exchange and the Etymology of God
00:54:54 Morality is Born from Play and Play is Born from Freedom
00:58:00 Humans Create Stories that Support, but Later Cripple, Further Exploration
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