

#574: Strong Cultures and State-Proof Cities with Tuur Demeester
Jan 23, 2025
Tuur Demeester, a thought leader known for his insights on state-proof cities, shares compelling experiences from his visit to Orania, South Africa. He discusses the town's unique origin and its approach to cultural conflict, reflecting on how communities can thrive amidst adversity. The conversation dives into the challenges of diversity, the evolving perception of Orania, and the scalability of self-sufficient communities. Tuur also critiques Ethereum while advocating for Bitcoin as a robust alternative, emphasizing its role in addressing current economic uncertainties.
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Visit to Orania
- Tuur Demeester visited Orania, a town in South Africa established by Afrikaners.
- It aims to be "state-proof" by minimizing reliance on government services.
Immigration Concerns
- Tuur's visit was inspired by concerning immigration trends in Belgium, where a large immigrant population votes overwhelmingly left.
- He sees South Africa as a potential future for Western Europe if these trends continue.
South African Afrikaners
- In South Africa, the Afrikaner minority faces challenges due to their demographic status and prevailing ideologies like Marxism.
- Despite this, they've built impressive projects like Orania, demonstrating resilience and resourcefulness.