Marty sits down with Tuur Demeester to discuss his visit to the South African city of Orania.
Tuur on Twitter: https://x.com/TuurDemeester
0:36 - Why Tuur went to Orania
8:02 - State-proof cities dealing with crime
14:29 - Orania's origins
19:24 - Fold & Bitkey
21:19 - Population growth and businesses
26:21 - South Africa is devolving
29:54 - Unchained
30:54 - Sentiment toward Orania
32:15 - Scaling Orania’s model
34:49 - Diversity and conflict
43:50 - Bitcoin fixes this, not MAGA
50:44 - Narrowing focus to weather the storm
1:00:54 - Cultural conflict makes family pairings difficult
1:05:45 - Meme coins
1:12:06 - Ethereum delenda est
1:17:28 - Bitcoin market and Bessent
1:23:10 - Tariffs and eliminating IRS
1:28:07 - Glass half full
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