Mindset Neuroscience Podcast Neuroscience of Mind Wandering, Default Mode & Social-Cognitive Complexity with Dr. Mary Helen Immordino-Yang
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May 27, 2025 
Dr. Mary Helen Immordino-Yang, a professor at USC known for her work at the intersection of neuroscience and education, delves into the intriguing world of mind wandering. She shares how these 'lapses in attention' can foster creativity and emotional well-being. Their discussion highlights the balance between introspection and focus, emphasizing how this duality enhances social cognition. Dr. Immordino-Yang also reflects on her journey from cabinet maker to educator, advocating for a holistic approach to teaching that accommodates emotional and cultural learning.
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Brain's Network Toggling Explained
- The brain toggles between ‘looking out’ (task-positive) and ‘looking in’ (default mode) networks depending on external or internal focus.
- Effective navigation between these networks predicts better perception, attention, and social-cognitive complexity.
Balance External and Internal Focus
- Create intentional space for both external focus and constructive internal reflection to optimize brain function.
- Practice shifting mindsets between goal-directed attention and mindful reflective states like daydreaming.
Immordino-Yang's Unique Journey
- Mary Helen Immordino-Yang's early life on a farm and diverse work in woodworking and teaching deeply shaped her educational neuroscience focus.
- These varied experiences fueled her interest in how social, cultural, and emotional development interact with learning processes.