Margaret Heffernan, author, professor, former CEO, and serial entrepreneur, discusses the central thesis of her book 'Uncharted: How to Navigate the Future.' Topics include the value of trial and error in personal and organizational contexts, exploring career paths and the importance of a love for learning, living like an artist, the lost art of aimless strolling, and the virtues of not living forever.
Understanding uncertainty and the limitations of economic forecasting is crucial in preparing for an unpredictable future.
Embracing the uncertainty and acknowledging that not knowing can be liberating allows for better decision-making and a sense of personal agency.
Experimentation, scenario planning, and embracing the mindset of an artist can help individuals navigate an uncertain future and create meaningful lives.
Deep dives
The art of forecasting and the founding fathers of economic prediction
The podcast explores the story of three economic forecasters from the 1920s and their different approaches to predicting economic outcomes. Babson, Fisher, and Persons all had a deep understanding of uncertainty due to their personal experiences with tuberculosis. They had quirky responses in maintaining their health, such as eating great nuts or exposing themselves to cold weather. Despite their best efforts and theories, they all failed in accurately predicting the future, with the Great Depression making them appear foolish. The episode highlights the importance of understanding uncertainty and the limitations of economic forecasting.
The discomfort of uncertainty
The podcast delves into the discomfort and desire for certainty that humans experience, especially in the face of uncertain events like the COVID-19 pandemic. It discusses the human desire for control and the demand for pundits and experts who offer predictions and certainty. However, it emphasizes that nobody truly knows the future and relying on predictions can be misleading. Embracing the uncertainty and acknowledging that not knowing can be liberating, allowing for better decision-making and a sense of personal agency.
The power of experimentation and scenario planning
The podcast explores the importance of experimentation and scenario planning in personal and professional contexts. It highlights examples of organizations that successfully experimented to improve productivity and outcomes, such as a Dutch home care nursing organization and the Bank of England. The episode suggests that individuals can also adopt similar approaches by embracing experimentation, being open to change, and actively exploring different options. Scenario planning can help individuals consider different possibilities and make decisions based on potential future scenarios, offering a sense of agency and the ability to navigate an uncertain future.
Living like an artist
The podcast emphasizes the value of living life with the mindset of an artist. It discusses how artists have a unique ability to pay attention, notice details, and make sense of the world around them. By being present and fully engaged, individuals can cultivate a sense of curiosity and discover their own unique experiences and perspectives. The episode encourages individuals to be open to uncertainty, embrace the unknown, and find their own path. It suggests that by paying attention and being fully present in the moment, individuals can create meaningful and fulfilling lives.
The importance of embracing mortality
The podcast challenges the notion of living forever and explores the value of accepting mortality. It highlights the limitations and drawbacks of seeking immortality, such as the accumulation of losses and the absence of freedom from past habits. It suggests that accepting mortality allows individuals to appreciate the preciousness of time, leave lasting memories with loved ones, and embrace the freedom to shape their own lives. The episode encourages individuals to use their time wisely, cherish memories, and make the most of the time they have.
How do we prepare for a future that is unpredictable? That's the question at the heart of Margaret Heffernan's new book, Uncharted: How to Navigate the Future. Heffernan is a professor at the University of Bath, but she is also a serial entrepreneur, a former CEO, and the author of five books on leadership, innovation, and the challenge of unleashing talent and creativity in large organizations. In this wide-ranging conversation with EconTalk host Russ Roberts, Heffernan discusses the central thesis of her book: The future may be unpredictable, but that doesn't mean you can't prepare for it. And smart organizations and people can learn how to do it.
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