Finding joy in the face of sorrow

Ross Gay, an acclaimed poet and author, explores the intricate dance between joy and sorrow in this thought-provoking conversation. He delves into how joy manifests physically and its role in resilience and community support during tough times. The discussion emphasizes the vital connection between joy and vulnerability, revealing its power to foster authentic relationships. Gay challenges societal norms around sadness, advocating for the embrace of life's complexities to find deeper meaning and connection, even amid adversity.