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Why AI-Enhanced Agencies Are Outpacing AI-First Pretenders with Michael Davern | Ep #858

Nov 30, 2025
Michael Davern, CEO of Incept and an early adopter of AI in digital marketing, shares his insights on thriving in an AI-driven landscape. He discusses why 'AI-enhanced' agencies, which blend technology with human connection, outperform 'AI-first' models. Michael emphasizes the importance of leadership and relationships in maintaining long client lifecycles. He advises agency owners to embrace innovation, actively foster team creativity, and navigate the noise created by poor tools in the market. A strong push for human-first strategies is at the core of his approach.
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ANECDOTE

From $49 Packages To Enterprise Pivot

  • Michael Davern recounts starting with $49 starter packages and cheesy tiers while selling text marketing to small businesses.
  • A pivot to enterprise texting in the Medicare vendor workflow turned texting into a revenue driver and expanded their agency into full service.
INSIGHT

AI-Enhanced Trumps AI-First

  • Michael prefers 'AI-enhanced' because value comes from human-led strategy plus tools, not tools alone.
  • AI should save time and money while enabling deeper testing and better client results.
ADVICE

Incubate Tools, Prioritize Key Drivers

  • Act as an incubator: experiment with tools but focus on the three or four things that drive a client's goals.
  • Curate tools, build workflows, and prioritize brains over mere execution for client value.
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