

Smart Agency Masterclass with Jason Swenk: Podcast for Digital Marketing Agencies
Jason Swenk
Growing an agency is very difficult, and you might feel unclear what to do next in order to grow and scale your agency. The Smart Agency Masterclass is a weekly podcast for agencies that are wanting to grow faster. We interview amazing guests from all over the world that have the experience of running successful businesses, and will provide you the insights you need. Our podcast is just over 3 years old, and have reached more than a half million listeners in 42 countries.
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Aug 17, 2025 • 28min
How to Scale an Agency by Simplifying Your Offer and Niching Down with Nate Freedman | Ep #826
Nate Freedman, founder of TechPro Marketing, pivoted from building expensive websites for mid-sized firms to a more fulfilling model that serves small IT businesses. He shares how simplifying his services led to a growth from $20K to over $2.5M a month. The conversation delves into overcoming imposter syndrome, harnessing niche-specific masterminds for collaboration, and the transformative power of focusing on high-value solutions that genuinely meet client needs. This approach not only reduced stress but also enhanced impact and satisfaction.

Aug 13, 2025 • 28min
Can You Scale an Agency Without Relying on Retainers? With Eric Baum | Ep #825
In this discussion, Eric Baum, CEO of Bluleadz, shares his journey of transforming his agency through HubSpot partnerships. He reveals the struggles of scaling beyond $5M and navigating cash flow challenges after shifting to project-based work post-pandemic. Eric emphasizes the importance of clear payment terms and proactive client engagement strategies. He also highlights the significance of delegation and team empowerment for growth, proving that success lies in trusting your team and adapting to market changes.

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Aug 12, 2025 • 6min
Why Traditional Team Structures Are Failing Modern Agencies
Explore how traditional team structures are holding agencies back. Discover the importance of shifting from rigid roles to fostering collaboration and leadership. Learn why clear vision is essential for empowering teams to make decisions. Attracting A-players can lead to significant productivity gains, far surpassing average performers. Uncover the secrets to creating a sustainable, thriving agency environment that encourages growth and innovation!

Aug 10, 2025 • 29min
How Do You Scale Your Agency Without Being the Bottleneck? With Kevin Miller | Ep #823
Kevin Miller, co-founder and CEO of Gr0, shares his journey from Google to leading a thriving performance marketing agency. He discusses how shifting from a hands-on approach to fostering a strong company culture has transformed his agency's dynamics. Miller emphasizes the importance of trust and delegation in leadership, highlighting how efficiency can replace the grind mentality. He also touches on learning from mistakes, the power of networking, and strategic pricing to sustain growth and client success.

Aug 6, 2025 • 25min
How to Step Out of Day-to-Day Client Work Without Breaking the Agency with Brent Weaver | Ep #822
Brent Weaver, CEO of E2M Solutions, explains how he evolved from being the core product to leading a thriving 300-person agency. He emphasizes that staying too involved in delivery limits growth and shares strategies for empowering leadership within teams. The conversation highlights the importance of setting a clear vision, using data for decision-making, and understanding the real factors behind agency performance. Brent offers insights on overcoming challenges, adapting to market dynamics, and making sustainable changes that fuel growth.

Aug 3, 2025 • 21min
Should Your Agency Fear AI or Leverage It? with Tim Condon | Ep #821
Tim Condon, Chief Revenue Officer at Clutch, shares insights from his extensive experience connecting agencies and clients. He dives into the necessity for agencies to embrace AI, rather than fear it, especially as client expectations evolve. The conversation highlights strategies for agencies to lead the AI dialogue, the importance of establishing trust in digital services, and how AI can transform agency roles into proactive advisors. Tim emphasizes that educating clients on AI can be a vital competitive advantage in an increasingly crowded marketplace.

Jul 30, 2025 • 20min
How to Get Out of the 24/7 Grind and Scale Your Agency Smarter with RJ Huebert | Ep #820
RJ Huebert, founder of HBT Digital, shares his journey from corporate marketer to agency owner, revealing the chaotic realities of agency life. He emphasizes the importance of speed in lead generation and how it can make or break sales. Listeners learn innovative strategies for nurturing leads without overwhelming them. RJ also discusses the balance between business demands and personal well-being, advocating for health and family as top priorities. With insights on reclaiming time and creating effective systems, he inspires agency owners to scale smarter.

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Jul 29, 2025 • 9min
2025 Agency Pricing Trends You Can’t Afford to Ignore
Agency owners face a tough reality: their pricing models might be broken. The discussion pivots on shifting from selling time to focusing on the outcomes delivered. Emphasizing value-based pricing can lead to significant profit growth, making you irreplaceable to clients. The pitfalls of hourly and project-based pricing are examined, highlighting how they often attract micromanaging clients and can trap agencies in a feast-or-famine cycle. Learn how to adjust your pricing to reflect your true value and attract high-quality clients.

Jul 27, 2025 • 31min
What Should You Do When Your Agency Gets Hit With a $10K Surprise? with Pete Kleinjan | Ep #818
This week’s guest is Pete Kleinjan, founder of Tiger29, a local SEO agency focused on helping small businesses thrive. He shares a shocking experience of facing a surprising $10K tax bill, underscoring the importance of trusting experts and maintaining perspective during chaos. Pete emphasizes that selling outcomes, not SEO jargon, is key to client relationships. Additionally, he discusses the lasting impact of authenticity over AI and the need to prioritize genuine client engagement, especially in challenging times.

Jul 23, 2025 • 27min
From Chaos to Clarity: Systems, Focus & Values of a Thriving Agency with Colin Hetherington | Ep #817
Colin Hetherington, founder of Common Good and co-founder of Zoo Digital, dives into the chaos of running an agency. He shares how to cultivate a resilient company culture to maintain low turnover and attract respectful clients. Hetherington emphasizes the importance of core values, stating they must truly reflect the team's beliefs. He advocates for creating robust systems to prevent burnout and explores the power of focus for sustainable growth. With hard-won lessons from his agency journey, he offers a roadmap to clarity and success.