

Smart Agency Masterclass with Jason Swenk: Podcast for Digital Marketing Agencies
Jason Swenk
Growing an agency is very difficult, and you might feel unclear what to do next in order to grow and scale your agency. The Smart Agency Masterclass is a weekly podcast for agencies that are wanting to grow faster. We interview amazing guests from all over the world that have the experience of running successful businesses, and will provide you the insights you need. Our podcast is just over 3 years old, and have reached more than a half million listeners in 42 countries.
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Oct 5, 2025 • 23min
How to Build a Resilient Agency That Stands the Test of Time with Bill Swanston | Ep #842
Bill Swanston, the President and founder of Bosun, shares his journey of running an agency for over 25 years. He discusses how they survived crises like 9/11 and COVID, highlighting the importance of tracking KPIs and adapting to change. Bill emphasizes the risks of relying on a "superclient" and the strategies for empowering a team to foster growth. He reflects on their recent rebrand, illustrating how it marks a cultural shift towards team empowerment rather than founder-centricity.

Oct 1, 2025 • 29min
Why the Middle Layer of Your Agency Org Chart May Not Survive AI with Jennifer Bagley | Ep #841
In this engaging discussion, Jennifer Bagley, CEO of CI Web Group, shares her journey from corporate operations to leading a tech-forward digital marketing agency. She highlights the transformative power of AI in reshaping agency structures, minimizing middle roles, and optimizing operations. Jennifer delves into hiring strategies, emphasizing the importance of experienced talent while leveraging AI for junior tasks. With insights on sourcing top-tier AI talent and modernizing agency stacks, she reveals how agencies can adapt and thrive in the digital age.

Sep 28, 2025 • 19min
How Do You Sell (or Buy) an Agency Without Killing Culture? With Alyssa Ash | Ep #840
Alyssa Ash, co-owner of AOR, shares insights on leading the agency through a seamless ownership transition. She discusses the unique challenges faced while buying the agency during COVID and the importance of preserving company culture. The conversation highlights how they prepared for ownership and navigated financing options, opting for a five-year seller note. Alyssa also addresses the common experience of imposter syndrome for new owners, revealing how it can be a healthy part of the ownership journey.

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Sep 24, 2025 • 18min
Agency M&A: Client Retention, Financing, and AI’s Role. The Inside Scoop with Zander Barth | Ep #839
Zander Barth, Director of Colophon New Media, shares his unique journey from chemical engineer to agency owner in Charleston. He discusses the advantages of buying an established agency over starting from scratch, emphasizing client retention and cultural alignment during ownership transitions. Zander reveals insights on structuring acquisition deals and the importance of seller motivations. He also delves into leveraging AI for due diligence and optimizing agency operations, illustrating how technology can enhance daily tasks and client interactions.

Sep 21, 2025 • 27min
How To Find and Keep the Right People to Scale Your Agency with Dan Salganik | Ep #838
In this engaging conversation, Dan Salganik, Managing Partner and CEO of Visual Fizz, discusses the real hurdles of agency building and the paradox of hiring. He shares insights on why finding the right team members is crucial for scaling, and busts the myth of the 'digital nomad.' Dan emphasizes the importance of strong project leadership and how boutique agencies can leverage storytelling for success against larger firms. His journey from freelancing to founding Visual Fizz showcases how quick decision-making can lead to rapid growth.

Sep 17, 2025 • 27min
Why Do Agency Owners Feel Trapped in Their Own Business? And How To Break Free with Dan Fisher | Ep #837
Dan Fisher, the founder of Bottle Rocket Media and a former editor for The Oprah Winfrey Show, shares his journey from television to running a successful digital marketing agency. He discusses how many agency owners feel trapped by their own business and offers insights on balancing creativity with data in storytelling. Dan emphasizes the importance of agency culture as a guiding compass and the necessity of personal growth as owners transition from hands-on roles to leadership, all while navigating a rapidly changing digital landscape.

Sep 14, 2025 • 31min
Will AI Really Change Agencies? Why the Human Element Still Wins with Josh Payne | Ep #836
Josh Payne, a serial entrepreneur and founder of Coframe, dives into how AI is transforming digital agencies. He argues that AI isn't a replacement for human creativity but an augmentation tool that enhances agency work. By mastering skills before delegating to AI, teams can achieve better results and deeper understanding. The chat also touches on navigating creative agency tasks with AI, emphasizing the vital human connection alongside tech advancements. Personal anecdotes enrich the discussion, highlighting the balance between innovation and personal identity.

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Sep 10, 2025 • 23min
Why Agencies Must Lead With Strategy (Not Just Execution) With Pete Caputa | Ep #835
Pete Caputa, CEO of Databox, shares his journey from engineer to a pivotal player at HubSpot. He emphasizes the shift agencies need to make from just executing tasks to leading with strategy and using data-driven decision-making. Pete discusses the evolution of digital marketing and the importance of strategic advisory roles. He explores how AI tools can streamline processes and enhance client engagement, highlighting the necessity of building strong, data-focused relationships with clients for sustainable growth.

Sep 9, 2025 • 5min
Order-Taker Agencies Are Dead. Here’s How to Survive AI
In a world dominated by AI, traditional order-taking agencies face extinction. The old model of delivering tasks is being replaced by a demand for strategic problem solvers. Agencies must shift from executing client requests to diagnosing real issues and selling valuable outcomes. The podcast dives into how agencies can lead clients, much like surgeons or lawyers, by focusing on clarity rather than just deliverables. Listen in as real agency owners share their successful transformations and the insights that empowered them to thrive in this new landscape.

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Sep 7, 2025 • 26min
How Thought Leadership Can Be Your Agency’s Biggest Growth Lever with Chris Long | Ep #833
In this discussion, Chris Long, VP of Marketing at Go Fish Digital, reveals how thought leadership is revolutionizing his agency's growth strategy. He emphasizes the importance of positioning oneself and the agency as industry experts through deliberate efforts like public speaking and content creation. Chris shares insights on empowering team members to contribute, the long-term benefits of consistent content creation, and the value of in-depth knowledge in digital marketing. It's all about patience and persistence for sustainable success!