a16z Podcast

What We Can't Reveal We Can't Heal

Jun 4, 2020
Shaka Senghor, a bestselling author and advocate for criminal justice reform, shares his powerful journey from prison to empowerment. Terry Brown, a former police officer in East Palo Alto, discusses his role in reducing crime and fostering community trust. Their conversation digs into the complexities of race relations and the need for transparency in law enforcement. Both guests emphasize empathy, community relationships, and the importance of healing through honest dialogue, all set against the backdrop of recent social movements.
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ANECDOTE

Shaka's Early Life and Incarceration

  • Shaka Senghor recounts growing up in Detroit, facing abuse and getting involved in the drug culture.
  • At 17, he was shot and later imprisoned for 19 years, including seven years in solitary confinement.
ANECDOTE

Terry Brown's Childhood and Motivation for Policing

  • Terry Brown, also from Detroit, describes witnessing police brutality and community unrest during his childhood.
  • Despite this, he became a police officer, initially for the physical activity, but later found a deep connection with the community he served.
INSIGHT

Goon Squads and Shared Experiences

  • Shaka and Terry discuss the existence of "goon squads" in jails on both the West and East Coasts.
  • They highlight the significance of seeing oneself in others, especially during vulnerable moments.
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