Shaka Senghor, a bestselling author and advocate for criminal justice reform, shares his powerful journey from prison to empowerment. Terry Brown, a former police officer in East Palo Alto, discusses his role in reducing crime and fostering community trust. Their conversation digs into the complexities of race relations and the need for transparency in law enforcement. Both guests emphasize empathy, community relationships, and the importance of healing through honest dialogue, all set against the backdrop of recent social movements.