20Sales: Biggest Lessons Scaling Slack from $6M to $1BN in ARR | How to Build a Customer Success Machine and Where Most Go Wrong | The Framework to Hire All Sales Reps: Take-Home Assignments, Hiring Panels and more with AJ Tennant @ Glean
Oct 23, 2024
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AJ Tennant, Vice President of Sales & Success at Glean, has a rich history scaling sales teams at Slack and Facebook. In this conversation, he shares insights on selling AI tools, discussing the transition enterprises need to make and their adoption concerns. He addresses common mistakes in customer success management and how to create seamless handoffs between sales and CS. AJ also reveals innovative hiring strategies for sales teams, emphasizing the importance of comprehensive candidate evaluations and unique interview techniques.
Sales skills can be cultivated through motivation and education, allowing a diverse range of individuals to succeed in sales roles.
Engaging in outbound sales activities is crucial for sales professionals, as proactive lead generation significantly enhances team effectiveness.
Integrating sales and customer success teams creates a collaborative environment, fostering customer satisfaction and opportunities for upselling post-sale.
Deep dives
Sales Skills: Learnable or Innate?
Sales skills can be learned rather than being solely innate traits. The belief that some individuals are born salespeople overlooks the potential for personal growth through motivation and education. AJ Tennant points out that even individuals perceived as less outgoing can successfully adapt to sales roles through hard work and adaptability. This opens the door for a diverse range of people to excel in sales if they are willing to learn and put in the effort.
Challenges in Junior Sales Reps
Younger sales representatives often struggle with creativity and flexibility in live conversations. When engaging with prospects, many tend to stick rigidly to pre-planned scripts instead of adapting to the conversation as it unfolds. This can lead to missed opportunities to connect with potential clients, as actively listening to and adjusting to the prospect's needs is crucial for success. Additionally, there is a trend toward prioritizing volume in outreach rather than crafting a smaller number of personalized, thoughtful messages.
Importance of Outbound Sales Efforts
Sales professionals should engage in outbound sales activities, as it directly impacts their success. AJ emphasizes that Account Executives (AEs) who are involved in outbound efforts tend to perform better. While support from product marketing and other team members is available, AEs must take the initiative in generating their own leads. This proactive approach not only fosters individual responsibility but also contributes to overall sales team effectiveness.
Navigating Sales Playbooks
The definition and utility of sales playbooks can be controversial, as they may complicate the straightforward nature of sales strategies. AJ Tennant asserts that while outlining strategies and communication is essential, simplifying the approach ensures clarity in execution. The focus should be on directly converting prospects into opportunities without overcomplicating the process with unnecessary structure. Success metrics such as securing meetings and converting opportunities should take precedence over elaborate playbook frameworks.
The Role of Customer Success Teams
Integration between sales and customer success teams is critical for ongoing success and upselling opportunities. Rather than following a rigid handoff process, it's beneficial for AEs to remain involved even post-sale to ensure smooth deployment and customer success. This collaboration fosters a joint investment in the client's satisfaction and future growth potential, ensuring that the efforts from both the sales and customer success teams are aligned. Furthermore, establishing clear success criteria for customer success initiatives enhances the overall accountability and effectiveness of the team.
AJ Tennant is the Vice President of Sales & Success at Glean, Glean has more than 20x'd its revenue and 100x'd its user base in the just two and a half years he's been there. Before Glean, AJ had incredible runs at Slack and Facebook. At Slack, AJ helped grow revenue from $6 million to more than $1 billion.
In Today’s Episode with AJ Tennant We Discuss:
1. How to Sell AI Tools in 2024:
Are we still in the experimental budget phase for AI?
How does selling AI tools differ to selling traditional SaaS?
What are enterprises biggest concerns when it comes to adopting AI tools?
What buzzwords get enterprises most excited in the sales process?
Will we see a massive churn problem when the first renewal cycle for many of these AI products comes?
2. Outbound, Discounting, Closing:
Is outbound dead in 2024? What does no one do that everyone should do?
How does AJ approach discounting? Biggest lessons and advice?
What can sales teams do to create a sense of urgency in a sales cycle?
How does AJ do deal reviews and post-mortems? What is the difference between good and bad post-mortems?
3. How to Master Customer Success:
What are the biggest mistakes founders make today in managing their CS teams?
Should CS be compensated for upsell? How should the comp structure of CS teams change?
What can be done to create a good handoff experience for the customer when handing from AE to CS?
What are the most common ways CS teams break over time?
4. Hiring the Best Sales Teams:
How does AJ structure the hiring process for all new sales hires?
What questions does AJ always need to ask when hiring sales reps?
What are clear signs of outperformers when hiring new reps?
Does AJ give candidates a take-home assignment? What does he want to see from them?
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